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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was close as improper forum as articles are already being discussed for merger. Please stop gaming the system, TTN. This is your last warning. ···日本穣^{? · Talk to Nihonjoe} 22:41, 20 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Daiki Niwa

This character does not establish notability independent of D.N.Angel through the inclusion of real world information from reliable, third party sources. Most of the information is made up of original research and unnecessary plot details. There is no current assertion for future improvement of the article, so coverage independent of the character list is unnecessary. TTN (talk) 19:45, 20 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I am also nominating the following related pages:

Delete per nominator does not demonstrate independent or real world notability and, perhaps most importantly, is not covered by reliable third party sources. Wikipedia is not a fansite. Wikipedia is not a venue for original research. These pages are a complete failure of WP:NOT policy. JBsupreme (talk) 20:06, 20 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Deletion is not appropriate for removing valid data. All of the characters are covered at least marginally in third party sources, and merging to the character list is a more appropriate optoin to deletion, which was already being dealt with. -- AnmaFinotera (talk · contribs) 20:14, 20 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I see no evidence of non-trivial coverage from reliable third parties, so I oppose merging at this juncture. JBsupreme (talk) 22:16, 20 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose all. AfD is not for merge discussions, and all of these are already being properly discussed for merging to List of D.N.Angel characters (and supported), and already in the Anime and manga project's current queue for active work being done. However apparently TTN feels there is some sort of deadline and doesn't feel actual merging is needed as he, once again, just did a wholescale redirect of all of the character articles without performing any actual merging and completing ignoring the existing discussion. These were reverted, of course, which is why I presume he is doing this AfD. Why not let us actually do the work we are doing instead of continuing to interrupt on-going work! -- AnmaFinotera (talk · contribs) 19:59, 20 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This debate has been included in the list of Anime and manga-related deletion discussions. -- -- AnmaFinotera (talk · contribs) 20:15, 20 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per nom. Doesn't demonstrate notability through reliable, third party sources on top of them all being about two or three paragraphs long. Nothing to merge here. On an unrelated note, I'm finding it humorous that AnmaFinotera is all up in arms about deleting articles up until TTN nominates one of her favorite subjects. - Norse Am Legend (talk) 22:24, 20 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Merge all to List of D.N.Angel characters. Information, even if it is in-universe information, should be preserved. --Malkinann (talk) 22:30, 20 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

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 * '''Delete''' per nominator does not demonstrate independent or real world notability and, perhaps most importantly, is not covered by reliable third party sources.  Wikipedia is not a fansite.  Wikipedia is not a venue for original research.  These pages are a complete failure of [[WP:NOT]] policy.  [[User:JBsupreme|JBsupreme]] ([[User talk:JBsupreme|talk]]) 20:06, 20 December 2008 (UTC)
-::Deletion is not appropriate for removing valid data. All of the characters are covered at least marginally in third party sources, and merging to the character list is a more appropriate optoin to deletion, which was already being dealt with. -- [[User:Collectonian|<span style='font-family: "Comic Sans MS"; color:#5342F'>Collectonian</span>]]&nbsp;([[User talk:Collectonian|talk]]&nbsp;'''·''' [[Special:Contributions/Collectonian|contribs]]) 20:14, 20 December 2008 (UTC)
+::Deletion is not appropriate for removing valid data. All of the characters are covered at least marginally in third party sources, and merging to the character list is a more appropriate optoin to deletion, which was already being dealt with. -- [[User:AnmaFinotera|<span style='font-family: "Comic Sans MS"; color:#5342F'>AnmaFinotera</span>]]&nbsp;([[User talk:AnmaFinotera|talk]]&nbsp;'''·''' [[Special:Contributions/AnmaFinotera|contribs]]) 20:14, 20 December 2008 (UTC)
 ::: I see no evidence of non-trivial coverage from reliable third parties, so I oppose merging at this juncture.  [[User:JBsupreme|JBsupreme]] ([[User talk:JBsupreme|talk]]) 22:16, 20 December 2008 (UTC)
-*'''Oppose''' all. AfD is not for merge discussions, and all of these are already being properly discussed for merging to [[List of D.N.Angel characters]] (and supported), and already in the Anime and manga project's current queue for active work being done. However apparently TTN feels there is some sort of deadline and doesn't feel actual merging is needed as he, once again, just did a wholescale redirect of all of the character articles without performing any actual merging and completing ignoring the existing discussion. These were reverted, of course, which is why I presume he is doing this AfD. Why not let us actually do the work we are doing instead of continuing to interrupt on-going work! -- [[User:Collectonian|<span style='font-family: "Comic Sans MS"; color:#5342F'>Collectonian</span>]]&nbsp;([[User talk:Collectonian|talk]]&nbsp;'''·''' [[Special:Contributions/Collectonian|contribs]]) 19:59, 20 December 2008 (UTC)
+*'''Oppose''' all. AfD is not for merge discussions, and all of these are already being properly discussed for merging to [[List of D.N.Angel characters]] (and supported), and already in the Anime and manga project's current queue for active work being done. However apparently TTN feels there is some sort of deadline and doesn't feel actual merging is needed as he, once again, just did a wholescale redirect of all of the character articles without performing any actual merging and completing ignoring the existing discussion. These were reverted, of course, which is why I presume he is doing this AfD. Why not let us actually do the work we are doing instead of continuing to interrupt on-going work! -- [[User:AnmaFinotera|<span style='font-family: "Comic Sans MS"; color:#5342F'>AnmaFinotera</span>]]&nbsp;([[User talk:AnmaFinotera|talk]]&nbsp;'''·''' [[Special:Contributions/AnmaFinotera|contribs]]) 19:59, 20 December 2008 (UTC)
-*<small>'''Note''':  This debate has been included in the [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Deletion sorting/Anime and manga|list of Anime and manga-related deletion discussions]].  </small> -- -- [[User:Collectonian|<span style='font-family: "Comic Sans MS"; color:#5342F'>Collectonian</span>]]&nbsp;([[User talk:Collectonian|talk]]&nbsp;'''·''' [[Special:Contributions/Collectonian|contribs]]) 20:15, 20 December 2008 (UTC)
+*<small>'''Note''':  This debate has been included in the [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Deletion sorting/Anime and manga|list of Anime and manga-related deletion discussions]].  </small> -- -- [[User:AnmaFinotera|<span style='font-family: "Comic Sans MS"; color:#5342F'>AnmaFinotera</span>]]&nbsp;([[User talk:AnmaFinotera|talk]]&nbsp;'''·''' [[Special:Contributions/AnmaFinotera|contribs]]) 20:15, 20 December 2008 (UTC)
-*'''Delete''' per nom. Doesn't demonstrate notability through reliable, third party sources on top of them all being about two or three paragraphs long. Nothing to merge here. On an unrelated note, I'm finding it humorous that Collectonian is all up in arms about deleting articles up until TTN nominates one of her favorite subjects. - [[User:Norse Am Legend|Norse Am Legend]] ([[User talk:Norse Am Legend|talk]]) 22:24, 20 December 2008 (UTC)
+*'''Delete''' per nom. Doesn't demonstrate notability through reliable, third party sources on top of them all being about two or three paragraphs long. Nothing to merge here. On an unrelated note, I'm finding it humorous that AnmaFinotera is all up in arms about deleting articles up until TTN nominates one of her favorite subjects. - [[User:Norse Am Legend|Norse Am Legend]] ([[User talk:Norse Am Legend|talk]]) 22:24, 20 December 2008 (UTC)
 *'''Merge''' all to [[List of D.N.Angel characters]].  Information, even if it is in-universe information, should be [[Wikipedia:PRESERVE|preserved]]. --[[User:Malkinann|Malkinann]] ([[User talk:Malkinann|talk]]) 22:30, 20 December 2008 (UTC)