Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Sara Spira

Sara Spira

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Nonnotable Holocaust victim. Wikipedia is not memorial. Staszek Lem (talk) 22:19, 4 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Delete Nothing found to show that she passes notability. Eagleash (talk) 23:38, 4 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Comment it appears the University of Wisconsin has done a lot of historical research on her, and her postcards have been displayed in the Jewish Museum Milwaukee and possibly the National Holocaust Museum. [1] Probably doesn't get her to WP:GNG, but I would recommend voters should do a before search of their own. SportingFlyer talk 23:43, 4 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

That's a good find. Agree it may not achieve GNG, but there might be more out there somewhere. Eagleash (talk) 10:04, 5 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

More links per above. University of Wisconsin course using her postcards as examples of an ordinary individual's experience of the holocaust: [2]; some description of her biography in the museum exhibit's description: [3]. 24.151.116.12 (talk) 16:06, 5 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Women-related deletion discussions. MT Train^Talk 03:33, 5 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of History-related deletion discussions. MT Train^Talk 03:33, 5 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Germany-related deletion discussions. MT Train^Talk 03:33, 5 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Comment. There are a substantial amount of citations here to keep this article in the project. Are any of the letters mentioned in the article commonly referenced by historians? Bmbaker88 (talk) 18:09, 6 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

According to this article by the UW professor who incorporated them into his course on the holocaust, the family rediscovered the correspondence in 2015.Bitzan, Amos (Fall 2016). "Postcards from Europe's Edge: Centerpiece of Holocaust History Course" (PDF). Mosse/Weinstein Center for Jewish Studies Newsletter. 17 (2): 4–5. Retrieved 2018-05-06. I am finding one Google hit for Sara Spira in a work published after that date but am unable to verify mention in the text. Holocaust Postal History: Harrowing Journeys Revealed Through the Letters and Cards of the Victims (2016). 24.151.116.12 (talk) 18:49, 6 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

To my knowledge, none of the postcards have been used as primary sources in published articles by historians yet, although they have been described in the article above, Bitzan, Amos (Fall 2016). "Postcards from Europe's Edge: Centerpiece of Holocaust History Course" (PDF). Mosse/Weinstein Center for Jewish Studies Newsletter. 17 (2): 4–5. Retrieved 2018-05-06.. The book, Gordon, Justin (2016). Holocaust Postal History: Harrowing Journeys Revealed Through the Letters and Cards of the Victims. Six Point Watermark. ISBN 9780997840100, mentioned above does not refer to Sara Spira's postcards in the text. It is highly likely that the postcards will be commonly referenced by historians in the future, in the wake of the exhibit at the Jewish Museum in Milwaukee, the course at the University of Wisconsin, and the slated move of the postcards to the U.S. Holocaust Memorial Museum's archive next fall, where they will be permanently housed. I, for one, plan to use the material in my own forthcoming work. However, until that point, I agree that the article would be better off merged to Jewish Museum Milwaukee#Sara Spira postcards Amos Bitzan Amos Bitzan (talk) 10:49, 9 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

~~Keep~~, or possibly merge to Jewish Museum Milwaukee, as "Jewish Museum Milwaukee#Sara Spira postcards", as they were exhibited there. This appears to be part of a class project centered on the postcards. I came across the course page because another editor has rewritten (to good results) a page on a Holocaust perpetrator. See Wikipedia:Wiki_Ed/University_of_Wisconsin-Madison/HIS_224_-_History_of_the_Holocaust_(Spring_2018): "Students will write a Wikipedia article related to some aspect of the Sara Spira correspondence." More in this article in the University's newsletter: pp. 4-5. In any case, keep the material and any merge discussion can happen on the article's Talk page. K.e.coffman (talk) 21:02, 6 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I would be fine with a merge to Jewish Museum Milwaukee#Sara Spira postcards. Most of the content can be merged. This would improve the target article which is devoid of 3rd party citations. K.e.coffman (talk) 01:00, 9 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Merge to Jewish Museum Milwaukee#Sara Spira postcards - I do not see from the sources in the article, or in my BEFORE, enough sources for WP:GNG.Icewhiz (talk) 11:14, 7 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Merge to Jewish Museum Milwaukee#Sara Spira postcards a useful addition to the Museum's page.E.M.Gregory (talk) 14:36, 7 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Merge to Jewish Museum Milwaukee#Sara Spira postcards at least until such time as there are further references satisfying GNG. The target article will benefit from the additional cited material. 24.151.116.12 (talk) 17:13, 9 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]