Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/The Egg (Weir short story)

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was speedy keep. The nominator has suggested a withdrawal, as notability is clearer than it previously appeared. There are no users at this point arguing in favour of deletion. ~ mazca ^talk 22:03, 11 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The Egg (Weir short story)[edit]

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There's been a WP:GNG tag on this article since Jan 2022 but no discussion on it, so I think it's valid to bring this to AfD; feel free to redirect me somewhere else if this isn't the right venue.

The most significant coverage I could find was in The Stanford Daily ([1]), which is cited by the article. There are passing mentions to it in articles about other works of Weir's, such as this LA Times article about The Martian ([2]), or this Variety article ([3]), but none suggest to me the story itself is significant beyond being another work by the author.

I'm not clear if WP:BK is meant to apply to self-published short stories. If it does, The Egg might be considered significant per the third criteria, "the book has been considered by reliable sources to have made a significant contribution to a notable or significant motion picture, or other art form, or event or political or religious movement," specifically Everybody_(Logic_album). There are many reliable sources confirming the inspiration, including the LA times article from earlier, Pitchfork ([4]), and XXL ([5]). I'm unclear what exactly qualifies as a "significant contribution," (it seems likely the criteria is intended to cover adaptations) but according to these sources the album includes direct quotes from the short story.

I'm personally neutral on whether or not the article should be deleted; it seems to be right on the edge of notability. I don't feel like it's obviously notable enough to remove the GNG tag without discussion though, so I'm bringing it here. Dylnuge ^{(Talk • Edits)} 00:33, 11 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Science fiction and fantasy and Literature. Dylnuge ^{(Talk • Edits)} 00:33, 11 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Keep This piece, which appears to be a journal article, covers the story as a problem in translation. Combined with the material discussed above and already present in the article, I see no reason to either delete this or merge it into Weir's own article--although the latter is clearly more appropriate than deletion, since V is readily met. Jclemens (talk) 04:00, 11 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The person claiming to be neutral is not neutral. They have personal motives that are directing their actions. The Egg is the reason Andy Weir first gained notoriety. Furthermore, The Egg is often used in classrooms and has served an educational purpose. Considering how widely known the piece is, the motives of the person requesting the article be deleted are blatant. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.169.177.202 (talk) 13:07, 11 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

What exactly are my personal motives here? I'm bringing forward an AfD on an article another editor flagged for notability questions. I also explicitly stated I'm not certain it should be deleted; this is a space for discussing that. Dylnuge ^{(Talk • Edits)} 18:53, 11 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

~~Weak keep~~ Keep. Lots of passing mentions in reputable sources, Logic references, and some random HITC article ([6]) make this seem to follow criterion 1 pretty well, and criterion 3 quite well. Also, just noticed criterion 4, which is almost certainly satisfied ([7], [8]) Oeoi (talk) 16:51, 11 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Keep: Given the additional sources others have noted, I think this definitely isn't as much of an edge-case as it initially appeared. Willing to withdraw/move for a speedy close of this AfD. Dylnuge ^{(Talk • Edits)} 18:51, 11 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.