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The AfD was closed as redirect and since then I have discussed the close with the closer at [[User_talk:RoySmith#Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Pakistan_administered_Kashmir]]. |
The AfD was closed as redirect which I believe should have been Keep or No Consensus/ or relist. and since then I have discussed the close with the closer at [[User_talk:RoySmith#Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Pakistan_administered_Kashmir]]. |
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*Some of the users at AfD had suggested Delete/Redirect used [[WP:POVFORK]] as reason. This comment i believe was just carried over from the [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Pakistan_occupied_Kashmir older AfD] about a duplicate article with a POV title due to the word "occupied". The current title did not had "occupied" word, and yet no explanation was given how it is POVFORK? and whose POV? Because it is a term used be neutral third party RS, mainstream media, books and The UN. |
*Some of the users at AfD had suggested Delete/Redirect used [[WP:POVFORK]] as reason. This comment i believe was just carried over from the [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Pakistan_occupied_Kashmir older AfD] about a duplicate article with a POV title due to the word "occupied". The current title did not had "occupied" word, and yet no explanation was given how it is POVFORK? and whose POV? Because it is a term used be neutral third party RS, mainstream media, books and The UN. |
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*Currently there is no existing article, that is about the geographical, political and historical entity referred to as "{{Google|Pakistan administered Kashmir}}". There were multiple RS and strong policy based justifications by several users to 'Keep' as discussed in the 'table' at [[User_talk:RoySmith#Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Pakistan_administered_Kashmir|RoySmith's talk]]. |
*Currently there is no existing article, that is about the geographical, political and historical entity referred to as "{{Google|Pakistan administered Kashmir}}". There were multiple RS and strong policy based justifications by several users to 'Keep' as discussed in the 'table' at [[User_talk:RoySmith#Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Pakistan_administered_Kashmir|RoySmith's talk]]. |
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*The article is currently redirected to [[Kashmir]] which is a much broader topic area article with a size of 79KB. So as per [[WP:SPINOFF]], [[WP:SIZERULE]] and notability criteria [[WP:GEOLAND]], [[WP:GNG]] a separate article is justified for this notable geographical entity.''<span style="text-shadow:0px 0px .3em LightSkyBlue;">[[User:DBigXray|D<span style="color:#DA500B">Big</span>]][[User talk:DBigXray|X<span style="color:#10AD00">ray</span>ᗙ]]</span>'' 22:32, 17 December 2018 (UTC) |
*The article is currently redirected to [[Kashmir]] which is a much broader topic area article with a size of 79KB. So as per [[WP:SPINOFF]], [[WP:SIZERULE]] and notability criteria [[WP:GEOLAND]], [[WP:GNG]] a separate article is justified for this notable geographical entity.''<span style="text-shadow:0px 0px .3em LightSkyBlue;">[[User:DBigXray|D<span style="color:#DA500B">Big</span>]][[User talk:DBigXray|X<span style="color:#10AD00">ray</span>ᗙ]]</span>'' 22:32, 17 December 2018 (UTC) |
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*'''Endorse''' that was about as well-explained of a close as you could see for a contentious AfD, and one that accurately reflects consensus. Furthermore, I don't know what we're reviewing here as I don't see any of these claims fitting into any of the acceptable purposes found at [[WP:DRVPURPOSE]]. [[User:SportingFlyer|SportingFlyer]] ''<span style="font-variant:small-caps">[[User talk:SportingFlyer|talk]]</span>'' 22:43, 17 December 2018 (UTC) |
*'''Endorse''' that was about as well-explained of a close as you could see for a contentious AfD, and one that accurately reflects consensus. Furthermore, I don't know what we're reviewing here as I don't see any of these claims fitting into any of the acceptable purposes found at [[WP:DRVPURPOSE]]. [[User:SportingFlyer|SportingFlyer]] ''<span style="font-variant:small-caps">[[User talk:SportingFlyer|talk]]</span>'' 22:43, 17 December 2018 (UTC) |
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::I would say [[WP:DRVPURPOSE]]#1 covers it. ''<span style="text-shadow:0px 0px .3em LightSkyBlue;">[[User:DBigXray|D<span style="color:#DA500B">Big</span>]][[User talk:DBigXray|X<span style="color:#10AD00">ray</span>ᗙ]]</span>'' 22:47, 17 December 2018 (UTC) |
::I would say [[WP:DRVPURPOSE]]#1 covers it. I have added it in line 1 to clarify this ''<span style="text-shadow:0px 0px .3em LightSkyBlue;">[[User:DBigXray|D<span style="color:#DA500B">Big</span>]][[User talk:DBigXray|X<span style="color:#10AD00">ray</span>ᗙ]]</span>'' 22:47, 17 December 2018 (UTC) |
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Revision as of 22:49, 17 December 2018
17 December 2018
Pakistan administered Kashmir
The AfD was closed as redirect which I believe should have been Keep or No Consensus/ or relist. and since then I have discussed the close with the closer at User_talk:RoySmith#Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Pakistan_administered_Kashmir.
- Some of the users at AfD had suggested Delete/Redirect used WP:POVFORK as reason. This comment i believe was just carried over from the older AfD about a duplicate article with a POV title due to the word "occupied". The current title did not had "occupied" word, and yet no explanation was given how it is POVFORK? and whose POV? Because it is a term used be neutral third party RS, mainstream media, books and The UN.
- Currently there is no existing article, that is about the geographical, political and historical entity referred to as "Pakistan administered Kashmir". There were multiple RS and strong policy based justifications by several users to 'Keep' as discussed in the 'table' at RoySmith's talk.
- In addition, as one can expect, this AfD was disrupted by SOCK and canvassing. User:The Donkey King has been blocked as a sock after he !voted. I believe this should also should be taken into account while deciding the weight of arguments.
- The article was started at the current location as there was a need felt to provide internal links about the article on this unique entity. A redirect to Kashmir does not serve the purpose
- The article is currently redirected to Kashmir which is a much broader topic area article with a size of 79KB. So as per WP:SPINOFF, WP:SIZERULE and notability criteria WP:GEOLAND, WP:GNG a separate article is justified for this notable geographical entity.DBigXrayᗙ 22:32, 17 December 2018 (UTC)
- Endorse that was about as well-explained of a close as you could see for a contentious AfD, and one that accurately reflects consensus. Furthermore, I don't know what we're reviewing here as I don't see any of these claims fitting into any of the acceptable purposes found at WP:DRVPURPOSE. SportingFlyer talk 22:43, 17 December 2018 (UTC)
- I would say WP:DRVPURPOSE#1 covers it. I have added it in line 1 to clarify this DBigXrayᗙ 22:47, 17 December 2018 (UTC)