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File:Con2.jpg

Orphaned user photo. No foreseeable use. Stefan2 (talk) 00:00, 25 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

File:Kit shorts chi10a.png

OR, likely obsolete to Commons version (commons:File:Kit shorts chi10a.png) Magog the Ogre (t • c) 04:22, 25 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

File:FEURSJ.JPG

Orphaned, unencyclopedic; appears to relate to a non-notable conlang of the editor’s invention.

File:Thilakan during early days in Theatre.jpg

Tagged as {{subst:rfu}} with a reference to File:Thilakan.JPG, but the tag was removed. This is indeed replaceable with the indicated file. Stefan2 (talk) 11:42, 25 September 2012 (UTC) Hi Stefan. Please get the file reviewed by a person from Kerala and since the image is one of the few remaining images of the person from his theatre days. (Haribhagirath (talk) 17:33, 25 September 2012 (UTC))[reply]

File:Paradise Edition of Born to Die by Lana Del Rey.jpg

Excessive use of non-free images, see File:BornToDieAlbumCover.png. Stefan2 (talk) 13:02, 25 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

File:KylieFlowerMusicVideo.jpg

Not discussed critically. Stefan2 (talk) 13:12, 25 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

umm, it is related to the music video section. Why don't you leave me alone and stop tagging all the pictures that I uploaded. Its annoying. Instead of deleting pictures that could help improve the articles, why don't you just help improving the articles? --SuperHotWiki (talk) 13:32, 25 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The music video is mentioned in the article, yes. This screenshot isn't mentioned, though. Besides, the screenshot tells absolutely nothing about the music video. --Stefan2 (talk) 13:35, 25 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Did you even read the music section? It says "Directed by Kylie Minogue herself, the music video was filmed in black and white. It featured Minogue lying on a lounge with only a towel covering her while looking through a mirror, wondering through woods and fields, walking along a tree trunk, playing on a swing, lying and sitting in a meadow of flowerItalic texts and lying in a pool. Minogue wore a long, sheer white dress for the music video."

The description of the picture says " Minogue in a music video scene, sitting in a meadow of flowers."

The screenshot is mentioned in the music video section! --SuperHotWiki (talk) 13:41, 25 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

There is zero discussion of this image in the article. However, the text you quoted ("sitting in a meadow of flower") provides an adequate replacement of the image, proving that the image is replaceable fair use and thus violating WP:NFCC#1. The image caption helps understanding the image, but WP:NFCC#8 works the other way around: the image should help understanding the text. --Stefan2 (talk) 13:46, 25 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Wow! --SuperHotWiki (talk) 13:56, 25 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

File:Chris Brown Beautiful People Music Video.png

Not discussed critically. Replaceable by text. Stefan2 (talk) 13:19, 25 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I really have nothing to say about it. 90% of the images I upload to enrich wikipedia end up getting some kind of notice or being delete, so whatever. Johnnyboytoy (talk) 15:29, 26 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

File:DumboFlyingElephantDisneylandPoster.jpeg

Violates WP:NFG. Not discussed critically. Stefan2 (talk) 13:21, 25 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

File:Hamdani.mohammad.jpg

Sourced to CNN, a commercial news company. See WP:NFC#UUI §7. Stefan2 (talk) 13:58, 25 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The item §7 you referred to says,

"A photo from a press or photo agency (e.g., AP, Corbis or Getty Images), unless the photo itself is the subject of sourced commentary in the article."

CNN is a commercial news company but doesn't appear to be a press or photo agency when comparing it with the three examples and looking at the definition at Press agency and news agency. So item §7 apparently doesn't apply to CNN.

Anyhow, the current image that was uploaded yesterday was not sourced from CNN. See the source url of the recent upload in the File history at comment section of the current version, i.e. http://names.911memorial.org/#lang=en_US&page=person&id=4946 .

BTW, I just noticed that the same picture (uncropped) is on the Facebook page of the deceased Hamdani, if that's of any relevance.

Please note that I'm new to uploading so I don't have much experience about these issues and I could use any advice that you may care to offer. Thanks. --Bob K31416 (talk) 00:05, 26 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I didn't notice that the source indicated in the source field didn't refer to the current version of the file, but isn't it just the same image with a different level of distortion? --Stefan2 (talk) 12:27, 26 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

It looks like that to me. Also, it looks like CNN and the 9/11 site both got the image from Hamdani's Facebook page by cropping the image there, as I alluded to in my previous message, and for some reason CNN's was distorted and the 9/11 website's wasn't. So the current version of the image used in Wikipedia is the one that was obtained from the 9/11 website. --Bob K31416 (talk) 13:25, 26 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

OK, so CNN isn't the original source. How did Facebook get the image? The man died three years before Facebook was founded, so he obviously didn't put the photo there himself. Is Facebook really enough to satisfy WP:NFCC#4 and WP:NFCC#10a? --Stefan2 (talk) 13:35, 26 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

WP:NFCC#4 says,

" Previous publication. Non-free content must have been published or publicly displayed outside Wikipedia."

Whether or not it is non-free content, it has been publicly displayed at each of the three sources previously mentioned before it was uploaded to Wikipedia yesterday. So the image complies with this section 4.

And WP:NFCC#10a says,

"Identification of the source of the material, supplemented, where possible, with information about the artist, publisher and copyright holder; this is to help determine the material's potential market value. See: Wikipedia:Citing sources#Multimedia."

Supplementing with that info isn't reasonably possible since it isn't given with the image that appears at any of the three sources. Also, it doesn't look like there is any potential market value for the image, which is the main consideration of the policy. So the image complies with this section 10a.

Of the three images, CNN, 9/11 website, and the more complete one on Facebook, my preference is to use the one from Facebook.[1] Would that be OK?

In any case, it looks like the current image in Wikipedia satisfies the points that you have mentioned so far and shouldn't be deleted. --Bob K31416 (talk) 14:37, 26 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

(edit conflict) Well, probably. I find the photo in lots of newspaper articles everywhere on the Internet. However, not a single newspaper credits the photo to a commercial photo agency (the only source I found at all was the word "handout" in one newspaper), which suggests that the image is fine. --Stefan2 (talk) 14:50, 26 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you. --Bob K31416 (talk) 15:09, 26 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

File:The Berlin Wall - Arcade flyer.jpg

Excessive use of non-free files. There is already another image: File:The Berlin Wall.jpg. Alternatively, delete the other one. Stefan2 (talk) 14:40, 25 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Ok, the Game Gear one should be deleted. --Hydao (talk) 14:41, 25 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Keep and delete the Game Gear cover. --SuperHotWiki (talk) 18:56, 25 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

File:Cup-300x225.gif

Blatant copyright violation.[2] No chance of meeting WP:NFCC, but the uploader keeps deleting the F9 template. Stefan2 (talk) 15:11, 25 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

It's not "blatant" at all. In fact it meets all 10 of the NFCC criteria. Stefan2 has so far been singularly unable to come up with a coherent reason why this shouldn't be considered fair use. Its the only image available, and it greatly improves the reader's understanding of the page, and the origin of the image is clearly marked.

I made a request to Stefan2 to assist me in correctly documenting the licensing and fair use request, but this has been refused.

Py0alb (talk) 15:17, 25 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I will also add that I only stated I was only temporarily removing the speedy deletion request because the nominator was refusing to engage in an attempt to reach consensus on the talk page. His antagonistic and confrontational attitude is not befitting of a wikipedian.

Py0alb (talk) 15:19, 25 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Keep I don't see why it should be deleted. --SuperHotWiki (talk) 18:54, 25 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

File:Asda.png

Unused fair use image. Been replaced with vector. JetBlast (talk) 18:09, 25 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Delete Unused PD image (but listed as as fair use). No foreseeable use. --Stefan2 (talk) 18:18, 25 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

File:BornToDieParadise.png

Fails WP:NFCC#3a: there is already a different cover in the article. Stefan2 (talk) 18:13, 25 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. The criterion you mention is valid "if one item can convey equivalent significant information". Since there are two different versions of the album with different covers and tracklists, the primary visual identification is not significantly conveyed by one image alone. De728631 (talk) 22:38, 28 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

File:BBC Wales corporate.jpg

Unused Fair Use JetBlast (talk) 18:21, 25 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Comment should this be {{PD-textlogo}} ? -- 76.65.131.248 (talk) 21:53, 25 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Definitely not ineligible for copyright in the United Kingdom. Dubious if it is copyrightable in the United States. --Stefan2 (talk) 21:55, 25 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

File:COMMAND PILOT WINGS 2.png

LQ, OR, superseded by File:COMMAND PILOT WINGS.png Magog the Ogre (t • c) 19:09, 25 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Move to commons this is a photo, the other is a diagram -- 76.65.131.248 (talk) 21:52, 25 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: image licencing decidedly odd. Photograph would have a separate copyright requirement, and there's no indication that's met. It's given as CC-BY-SA presumably, but it's a very small size for a typical photograph by an uploader. Since he or she will have been notified, I would be interested in confirming this and making it clearer. Grandiose (me, talk, contribs) 19:24, 27 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

File:Childhood.jpg

Collection of multiple orphaned user photos. No foreseeable use. Stefan2 (talk) 21:54, 25 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

File:Gee.jpg

Orphaned user photo. No foreseeable use. Stefan2 (talk) 22:16, 25 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

File:Terry Thompson Zanesville Resident.jpg

Fails WP:NFCC#8: you don't need to know what he looked like in order to know that he released animals. Stefan2 (talk) 23:23, 25 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Go ahead and delete. Lord knows I need to get in more trouble on here. Just trying to be a good Wikipedian is all -- Dpm12, 26 September 2012 7:28 (PDT)

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 Fails [[WP:NFCC#3a]]: there is already a different cover in the article. [[User:Stefan2|Stefan2]] ([[User talk:Stefan2|talk]]) 18:13, 25 September 2012 (UTC)
+*'''Keep'''. The criterion you mention is valid "if one item can convey equivalent significant information". Since there are two different versions of the album with different covers and tracklists, the primary visual identification is not significantly conveyed by one image alone. [[User:De728631|De728631]] ([[User talk:De728631|talk]]) 22:38, 28 September 2012 (UTC)
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