Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Lareneg

Lareneg

Lareneg (talk⁺ · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · spi block · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki)

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Report date March 7 2010, 15:58 (UTC)

Suspected sockpuppets

• Saiga12 (talk⁺ · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · spi block · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki)
• ALRisala (talk⁺ · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · spi block · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki)
• Ravenssx (talk⁺ · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · spi block · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki)
• LokiiT (talk⁺ · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · spi block · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki)
• 195.225.130.130 (talk⁺ · tag · contribs · filter log · WHOIS · RBLs · proxy check · block user · spi block · block log · cross-wiki contribs · CheckUser (log))
• 92.243.182.18 (talk⁺ · tag · contribs · filter log · WHOIS · RBLs · proxy check · block user · spi block · block log · cross-wiki contribs · CheckUser (log))
• 92.196.33.18 (talk⁺ · tag · contribs · filter log · WHOIS · RBLs · proxy check · block user · spi block · block log · cross-wiki contribs · CheckUser (log))
• 79.139.195.235 (talk⁺ · tag · contribs · filter log · WHOIS · RBLs · proxy check · block user · spi block · block log · cross-wiki contribs · CheckUser (log))

Evidence submitted by Biophys

Very similar vandalism patterns with numbers, in the same or related articles. Please compare:

Saiga12 (talk · contribs):[1],[2],[3], See how he first adds word "dead" to the number of casualties [4], but then removes the number [5].

Lareneg (talk · contribs)[6],[7],[8] (this is probably an IP from Germany: [9])

ALRisala (talk · contribs) [10]

Ravenssx (talk · contribs) = Saiga12 since they (a) conducted synchronized edit warring in the same page, with the same edit summary: [11], [12] and (b) they vandalized the same talk page: [13], [14]

IP 195.225.130.130 is almost certainly Ravenssx, as they also share a few edits on the subjects related to hydroelectric power.

IP 79.139.195.235 and IP 195.225.130.130 conducted coordinated edit warring in another article on Chechnya-related subjects: [15], [16].

The user denied sockpuppetry: [17] and also did this [18]. All accounts above are essentially SPA.

I ask for checkuser because there could be more SPA accounts with similar vandalism patters but a small number of edits created to avoid detection.

It's noteworthy that Saiga12 (talk · contribs) came to my talk page almost simultaneously (40 minutes difference) with another sockpuppeteer, LokiiT (talk · contribs) (see his sockpuppet case). They both made very similar but highly unusual claims: [19] and [20] and threats [21]. They both share similar POV, edit the same articles, and both created large numbers of secondary accounts with small numbers of edits. See for example, these two recent sequential edits in the same article by LokiiT and Saiga12: [22] and [23]. For other background information about LokiiT please see this: [24].

Two others came to LokiiT talk page through proxy servers to support claims by him and Saiga12 about "terrorist supporters". First account blamed an uninvolved administrator of being a ""terrorist supporter" [25]. Both proxy accounts debated me as a "terrorist supporter" (see deleted record).

• RE to LokiiT: I do not see which my edits could justify a simultaneous response from five allegedly different accounts (Saiga12, Ravenex, LokiiT and two others who came through proxy servers). I edited Chechnya-related subjects for years. Are you really a sock of User:Alexandre Koriakine? I do not know because Thatcher could not answer. Biophys (talk) 17:54, 13 March 2010 (UTC)

Comments by accused parties

See Defending yourself against claims.

• Oh look, he's at it again [26]. A note to whoever is going to deal with this: I feel this is nothing other than a personal attack against myself, given the recent dispute[27] between Biophys and I, and the fact that the only similarity between myself and the other accused party is that we both have edits in Chechen war related articles. I urge you to do a usercheck on me, and then please read what I wrote in that first diff about Biophy's history of sock fishing against people he doesn't like.LokiiT (talk) 17:47, 7 March 2010 (UTC)

re the IP vandal on my talk page: That was one IP. Don't know what second one he's talking about. And his message had nothing to do with Biophys. It was a personal attack against FPaS which I promptly removed. But I have no idea what that has to do with any of this. LokiiT (talk) 00:03, 8 March 2010 (UTC)

 Clerk note: personal attacks by Saiga12 (talk · contribs) redacted, regards, Spitfire^Tally-ho! 19:24, 9 March 2010 (UTC)

Clerk, patrolling admin and checkuser comments

Checkuser request – code letter: B (Ongoing serious pattern vandalism )

Current status – Completed: Reviewed by a Checkuser, results and comments are below.    Requested by Biophys (talk) 15:58, 7 March 2010 (UTC)

 Clerk endorsed for checkuser on Saiga12 (talk · contribs) and Ravenssx (talk · contribs). ALRisala (talk · contribs) actually has a fairly different method of operation, but in any case is  Stale. Not sure about LokiiT and Lareneg. Regards, Spitfire^Tally-ho! 19:50, 12 March 2010 (UTC)

There is a high degree of coordination between Saiga12, Ravenssx, LokiiT and two others who came through proxy servers at the talk page of LokiiT to out User:Future Perfect at Sunrise (see deleted record [28]). All of them acted simultaneously and claimed that I am a "vandal" and "terrorist supporter".Biophys (talk) 15:33, 13 March 2010 (UTC)

Perhaps it has something to do with your editing. I wouldn't have said a thing had you not begun to harass and provoke me again so you could try and get me blocked. Your first attempt failed, I guess you gotta keep trying.

Biophys has simply been waiting for an opportunity like this where I make vaguely similar posts to some other newbie so he could report me, not because he believes I'm this user, but to see if I have any other "mini-socks" like the ones found in my old sock investigation. He's just fishing again. If it works he'll have me rid of for good! And if doesn't work this time (which it won't, I assure you) he'll just do it again later, wasting more of your and my time. And hell, I find his accusations that I work for the government[29] flattering and hilarious. I find the fact that he believes I'm some guy named Alexandre Koriakine and that he goes around telling people I said I was this person very amusing. But it's the stalking I can't stand. LokiiT (talk) 17:40, 13 March 2010 (UTC)

All non-stale accounts are entirely  Unrelated. Saiga12 (talk · contribs) did create Saigaa (talk · contribs) back in January, but that account has never been used for editing, and the gap in Saiga12's editing around that time may simply indicate that they forgot their password and created Saigaa as a backup plan. Hersfold ^(t/a/c) 05:17, 15 March 2010 (UTC)

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