Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Notagainst
Notagainst
- Notagainst (talk+ · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · spi block · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki)
16 May 2020
– This SPI case is open.
Suspected sockpuppets
- Pinklydo (talk+ · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · spi block · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki)
- Friggenfright (talk+ · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · spi block · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki)
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(Update: it seems there are additional, older sock accounts and complaints were made about them on the user's talk page before the suspected sock Pinklydo existed. I have added material on one likely sock account Friggenfright, an SPA for the Peter Ellis page actively edited by the other two accounts, in parenthesis below.)
Same distinctive set of topics (e.g., New Zealand/Australia related; climate change activism, Greta Thunberg, Bushfires in Australia and their climate impact; POV anti-Trump edits at Kayleigh McEnany and Jared Kushner) ;
Same pattern of fixating on one article, making a flurry of edits and opinionated, inflexible talk page disputations (in some cases taking over the entire article) rather than lightly editing a random variety of articles;
Same combative style, edit warring and control through reverts ("must justify edit") and edit explanations so over-the-top as to suggest deliberate trolling;
Rewriting each other's talk page edits without signature or other indication, edits are 40 minutes apart. (The same pattern is seen with another likely sock, Friggenfright, edits 35 minutes apart, with the sock account retired after someone posted about this on the master account's talk page).
Rewriting each other's article edits , edits are 30 minutes apart;
Same unusual "indented contradicting !vote" reply style in their comments in the same talk page discussion about the sock's disruptive edits.
The apparent sockpuppet "Pinklydo" is used, among other purposes, to evade Notagainst's topic ban on climate change which Notagainst also violated directly.
Generally the disruptive style most recently seen in Pinklydo's trollishly anti-Trump edits at Kayleigh McEnany and its talk page is identical to the behavior described as the premise for the topic ban.
From the timestamps it looks like lately the user runs two simultaneous sessions with the two accounts and does tag-team edits at roughly the same time.
This seems a rather clear case with the only unclear thing (to me) being whether it is done for comedic trolling or reflects a genuinely out of control disruptive user. 73.149.246.232 (talk) 09:59, 16 May 2020 (UTC) 73.149.246.232 (talk) 09:59, 16 May 2020 (UTC)
Comments by other users
Accused parties may also comment/discuss in this section below. See Defending yourself against claims. It appears that the both the user Notagainst and the user Pinklydo appear to both be editing in various articles to do with politics, for example significant changes on the page Kayleigh McEnany and various other articles. As stated before, it appears that the user's anti-Trump edits are present on both the accounts mentioned earlier. They are also editing each others' talk page posts, within 30 minutes typically, and if they were different people, why would the consistently follow one another, through these political American pages, attempting to back up their points by fraudulently having another user comment positively on them, in the same manner as the other user. It is obvious that the two accounts were set up by the same user (probably), but Pinklyo's more recent edits seem to be those backing anti-Trump statements on the page Kayleigh McEnany, so it seems that the two different accounts were both backing each other's edits regarding climate change, although now it seems that the account Pinklydo is now used instead to solely back Notagainst's anti-Trump statements on the page Kayleigh McEnany. So it seems that Notagainst in fact is against Donald Trump (unlike what his name says)! Overall, from the evidence, there is most probably a sockmaster controlling both of these accounts. XLK123 (talk) 09:40, 24 May 2020 (UTC)
Also, it appears that because the suspicions have been raised, Notagainst has had some involvement with the Arbitration Committee, attempting to deny the accusations that he/she is facing. I just noticed that Notagainst also welcomed Pinklydo to Wikipedia extremely swiftly, as though he somehow knew that the user was coming, and as they say: BIG givaway. XLK123 (talk) 09:48, 24 May 2020 (UTC)
- Like in the climate change Arbitration enforcement case, NotAgainst (& co) have become inactive for a while after this was filed. Yesterday Pinklydo started editing after an unusual 11-day break without responding to sockpuppet concerns. Not sure whether there is an expectation here to respond, but it does point towards a similar behaviour as before. Femke Nijsse (talk) 11:32, 28 May 2020 (UTC)
- All three accounts were pinged in a message left on Notagainst's talk page when this investigation was posted, so the normally very argumentative Pinklydo is aware but quiet. 73.149.246.232 (talk) 16:54, 28 May 2020 (UTC)