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::::::::::::::I don't disagree with the idea of having a central venue to discuss controversial or complicated merges; my opinion was/is that a process as formal (and sometimes downright [[WP:BITE|hostile]]) as AfD is not suited to being that venue. I guess I can see how the timing of my involvement (a by-product of seeing a link to this page at {{tl|cent}} or one of the village pumps) may have made it seem like I was trying to block the change; I can't support the proposed change, but I also will not attempt to undermine it if it is what the community wants.
::::::::::::::I don't disagree with the idea of having a central venue to discuss controversial or complicated merges; my opinion was/is that a process as formal (and sometimes downright [[WP:BITE|hostile]]) as AfD is not suited to being that venue. I guess I can see how the timing of my involvement (a by-product of seeing a link to this page at {{tl|cent}} or one of the village pumps) may have made it seem like I was trying to block the change; I can't support the proposed change, but I also will not attempt to undermine it if it is what the community wants.
::::::::::::::Out of curiousity, would you (or anyone else supporting this change) have any objection to [[Wikipedia:Proposed merges]] being a central venue for ''informally'' requesting merge-related assistance? Part of the reason that I prefer the format of pages like WP:PM and [[WP:RM]] for dealing with editing issues is that I view them to be more editor-friendly than any of the XfDs... -- '''[[User:Black Falcon|Black Falcon]]''' <sup>([[User talk:Black Falcon|talk]])</sup> 03:38, 16 February 2010 (UTC)
::::::::::::::Out of curiousity, would you (or anyone else supporting this change) have any objection to [[Wikipedia:Proposed merges]] being a central venue for ''informally'' requesting merge-related assistance? Part of the reason that I prefer the format of pages like WP:PM and [[WP:RM]] for dealing with editing issues is that I view them to be more editor-friendly than any of the XfDs... -- '''[[User:Black Falcon|Black Falcon]]''' <sup>([[User talk:Black Falcon|talk]])</sup> 03:38, 16 February 2010 (UTC)
{{od}}Coming into this new, I'm not sure why this is a controversial proposal. Proposed merges is pretty useless and should be put out of its misery. As well, there is a massive backlog of merge tags with discussions that never happened or never got closed, so that process kind of sucks too. I agree that the new name sounds kind of like a euphemism, and I don't think the rename is critical to the scope changing, so if there is opposition to the rename then just go forward with the scope change without the rename. It should be made clear that this process change doesn't forbid bold merges or talk-page discussed merges. Lets not oppose change simply because it's change. Some changes are good. [[User:Gigs|Gigs]] ([[User talk:Gigs|talk]]) 14:02, 17 February 2010 (UTC)