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I am not involved in this dispute but I feel the need to respond to Wikipedia's antisemitic troll, Greg park avenue. I would like to point out that I am not a [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Requests_for_arbitration/Piotrus_2/Evidence&curid=19095143&diff=235685916&oldid=235674897 "mirror account"] of [[User:Boodlesthecat]] (whatever that means). As far as Greg being an antisemitic troll, [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Requests_for_arbitration/Piotrus_2/Evidence&diff=prev&oldid=235514076 ''res ipsa loquitur'']. (If further evidence is needed that he is an antisemitic troll, take a glance at his contributions to [[Talk:Fear: Anti-Semitism in Poland after Auschwitz]].) — [[::User:Malik Shabazz|Malik Shabazz]] ([[::User talk:Malik Shabazz|talk]] '''·''' [[::Special:Contributions/Malik Shabazz|contribs]]) 23:19, 1 September 2008 (UTC)
I am not involved in this dispute but I feel the need to respond to Wikipedia's antisemitic troll, Greg park avenue. I would like to point out that I am not a [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Requests_for_arbitration/Piotrus_2/Evidence&curid=19095143&diff=235685916&oldid=235674897 "mirror account"] of [[User:Boodlesthecat]] (whatever that means). As far as Greg being an antisemitic troll, [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Requests_for_arbitration/Piotrus_2/Evidence&diff=prev&oldid=235514076 ''res ipsa loquitur'']. (If further evidence is needed that he is an antisemitic troll, take a glance at his contributions to [[Talk:Fear: Anti-Semitism in Poland after Auschwitz]].) — [[::User:Malik Shabazz|Malik Shabazz]] ([[::User talk:Malik Shabazz|talk]] '''·''' [[::Special:Contributions/Malik Shabazz|contribs]]) 23:19, 1 September 2008 (UTC)
:Per my statement in this arbcom, I agree with Malik that he is not any puppet, but an independent and constructive editor, whom I respect and with whom I and other editors were able to work peacefully and constructively. I asked greg to refactor his statement (he has been inactive since he posted it few days ago). That said, any accusations that greg is an antisemite are baseless and defamatory. And yes, I believe that analysis of [[Talk:Fear: Anti-Semitism in Poland after Auschwitz]], where greg was baited (''not'' by Malik!) into certain ''too flowery'' statements, is certainly useful. --<sub><span style="border:1px solid #228B22;padding:1px;">[[User:Piotrus|Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus]]|[[User_talk:Piotrus|<font style="color:#7CFC00;background:#006400;"> talk </font>]]</span></sub> 02:39, 5 September 2008 (UTC)
:Per my statement in this arbcom, I agree with Malik that he is not any puppet, but an independent and constructive editor, whom I respect and with whom I and other editors were able to work peacefully and constructively. I asked greg to refactor his statement (he has been inactive since he posted it few days ago). That said, any accusations that greg is an antisemite are baseless and defamatory. And yes, I believe that analysis of [[Talk:Fear: Anti-Semitism in Poland after Auschwitz]], where greg was baited (''not'' by Malik!) into certain ''too flowery'' statements, is certainly useful. --<sub><span style="border:1px solid #228B22;padding:1px;">[[User:Piotrus|Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus]]|[[User_talk:Piotrus|<font style="color:#7CFC00;background:#006400;"> talk </font>]]</span></sub> 02:39, 5 September 2008 (UTC)
::I've been alerted to this ArbCom case off-wiki. I'd encourage the arbitrators to read that page as well, where I tried to get discussion back on track at a couple of points. It's a little hair-raising. --<span style="font-family:Georgia">[[User:Relata refero|Relata refero]] ([[User talk:Relata refero|disp.]])</span> 11:12, 7 September 2008 (UTC)
::Incidentally I don't really have any evidence to offer that seems to fit within the scope of this ArbCom, but a couple of people from various "sides" have asked me to weigh in, so I might detail my peripheral involvement in one or two disputed articles a little later if I have the time. --<span style="font-family:Georgia">[[User:Relata refero|Relata refero]] ([[User talk:Relata refero|disp.]])</span> 11:13, 7 September 2008 (UTC)


==Comment to statement by [[User:greg park avenue]]==
==Comment to statement by [[User:greg park avenue]]==

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Comments by uninvolved editor Malik Shabazz

I am not involved in this dispute but I feel the need to respond to Wikipedia's antisemitic troll, Greg park avenue. I would like to point out that I am not a "mirror account" of User:Boodlesthecat (whatever that means). As far as Greg being an antisemitic troll, res ipsa loquitur. (If further evidence is needed that he is an antisemitic troll, take a glance at his contributions to Talk:Fear: Anti-Semitism in Poland after Auschwitz.) — [[::User:Malik Shabazz|Malik Shabazz]] ([[::User talk:Malik Shabazz|talk]] · [[::Special:Contributions/Malik Shabazz|contribs]]) 23:19, 1 September 2008 (UTC)

Per my statement in this arbcom, I agree with Malik that he is not any puppet, but an independent and constructive editor, whom I respect and with whom I and other editors were able to work peacefully and constructively. I asked greg to refactor his statement (he has been inactive since he posted it few days ago). That said, any accusations that greg is an antisemite are baseless and defamatory. And yes, I believe that analysis of Talk:Fear: Anti-Semitism in Poland after Auschwitz, where greg was baited (not by Malik!) into certain too flowery statements, is certainly useful. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk 02:39, 5 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I've been alerted to this ArbCom case off-wiki. I'd encourage the arbitrators to read that page as well, where I tried to get discussion back on track at a couple of points. It's a little hair-raising. --Relata refero (disp.) 11:12, 7 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Incidentally I don't really have any evidence to offer that seems to fit within the scope of this ArbCom, but a couple of people from various "sides" have asked me to weigh in, so I might detail my peripheral involvement in one or two disputed articles a little later if I have the time. --Relata refero (disp.) 11:13, 7 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Comment to statement by User:greg park avenue

Clearly there is absolutely nothing "anti-semitic" in his statement. To the contrary, he speaks up against "edit warriors" who "antagonize Polish, Ukrainians, Lithuanians, Germans, Jews etc against each other" in WP. So, Greg objected the strong "anti-national" claims, and ... here they are: User:Boodlesthecat comes and blames Greg of ... antisemitism. Biophys (talk) 02:16, 5 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]