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More Notability Issues

It's that time again.

It seems that a lot of talk arises about notability issues but nothing gets done. Realistically, this is starting to become a recurring problem. Case in point: Justin Gaethje is continually deleted from Wikipedia, despite being a current WSOF champion who is considered a top fighter in his weight class. Sage Northcutt, meanwhile, has one UFC fight, and is able to have a profile (albeit with a notability warning).

Here's the correct answer: both are notable. So is Rin Nakai, who has been a topic of previous discussion as well. All these fighters should have pages, for various reasons. Gaethje is a defending champion in a notable promotion, regardless of the dated tier system on MMA:NOT. Northcutt is one of the hottest rookies in years and has had tons of mainstream attention, making him notable under MMA:NOT criteria 1. Finally, Rin Nakai is also notable as a champion of several smaller promotions, and for having been the first female Japanese fighter to ever fight in the UFC, and on Japanese soil in said event, which makes her notable for multiple reasons.

Something really needs to get done here. When the media is commenting on and even dedicating articles to wikipedia's inability to solve the MMA Notability issue, then you know there's a problem.

Suggestion: All tier2 champions (past/present) should be acceptable under MMA:NOT guidelines. Additionally, WMMA champions in smaller orgs should be acceptable, as women's MMA is underrepresented in MMA:NOT.24.150.23.123 (talk) 22:26, 19 October 2015 (UTC) someguy

The WSOF issue I think should be resolved in January. Last i remember was everyone agreed to move them to top tier in January if they maintain x fighters in sherdog rankings till december 31st.

As far as Northcutt goes, if someone wants to put the work in one his page and sandbox it and then publish it when he has 3 top tier fights, then great. But there has to be some sort of criteria, or we will just have pages for every tom dick and harry with 1 ufc fight. Its great that there are people on teh sage bandwagon now who will put in the work, but if he loses his next two fights, breaks his leg and gets cut its the old editors who have to pick up the peices. Not sure about the "media" writing articles about wiki and fighters. An awful lot of the mma "media" is basically repackaged blog sites. Dimspace (talk) 17:38, 20 October 2015 (UTC)

I see no reason to change the well established notability criteria in favor of WP:ILIKEIT. Papaursa (talk) 19:56, 25 October 2015 (UTC)

endorse moving WSOF to top tier. Also endorse moving International Vale Tudo Championship to second tier or top tier. CrazyAces489 (talk) 06:51, 30 October 2015 (UTC)

endorse move of wsof to first tier and second tier champions and top 10 fighters for notability. 148.74.254.186 (talk) 07:04, 31 October 2015 (UTC)

• Oppose No valid reason given for changing long accepted consensus on notability criteria and competing in second tier is not competing at the highest level. This is already under discussion at WT:MMA and one discussion on the same topic is enough.Mdtemp (talk) 16:12, 3 November 2015 (UTC)

Status on IVTC?? CrazyAces489 (talk) 05:53, 27 December 2015 (UTC)