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::Dear Mathew - read ur commentary on the page on meta focussing on Funds and so on. Please dont be sarcastic. If there will be numbers, there will be a discussion. The article here shows, that there are none. But thats not the point. U cant shift all the evil to Mrs. Gardner. She made proposals, others should have contributed. They did not in Paris, as we read. So she can only make recommendations for strategic reasons - but that shouldnt be the point either. The point is: How is that structure to be dealt with: The WMF - the chapters - the authors. Who is what in that chain? How can we make benefit possible for all (and dont forget the donors, its a complicated system to resolve). --[[User:Angel54 5|Angel54 5]] ([[User talk:Angel54 5|talk]]) 03:01, 28 February 2012 (UTC) |
::Dear Mathew - read ur commentary on the page on meta focussing on Funds and so on. Please dont be sarcastic. If there will be numbers, there will be a discussion. The article here shows, that there are none. But thats not the point. U cant shift all the evil to Mrs. Gardner. She made proposals, others should have contributed. They did not in Paris, as we read. So she can only make recommendations for strategic reasons - but that shouldnt be the point either. The point is: How is that structure to be dealt with: The WMF - the chapters - the authors. Who is what in that chain? How can we make benefit possible for all (and dont forget the donors, its a complicated system to resolve). --[[User:Angel54 5|Angel54 5]] ([[User talk:Angel54 5|talk]]) 03:01, 28 February 2012 (UTC) |
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:::I'm not being sarcastic. I had no idea about this chapter business until now. I'm not shifting the blame to Gardner. Personally, I think she is right on - she sees how screwed up things are and she is pessimistic that there is any kind of will in WMF to fix things. She is the only one that seems to see what is going on and how destructive it is. Isn't it a little strange that the US has no chapter? The ''Signpost'' editor says this is old news, that anyone can find this out in 10 seconds. But now I am understanding some things and how unlikely anything about en:wp specifically is going to be fixed. It is obvious to me that WMF has its own agenda, and that when they speak of "community" they are talking about something completely different than when people on en:wp speak of "community". [[User:MathewTownsend|MathewTownsend]] ([[User talk:MathewTownsend|talk]]) 03:22, 28 February 2012 (UTC) |
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- Interestingly, according to the list of chapters, although many countries have their own chapters, e.g. the UK, Australia, France, the United States does not. It has two individual chapters focused on specific cities: Wikimedia District of Columbia and Wikimedia New York City. This was a HUGE REVELATION to me! Really makes me rethink a lot about this project. I can't be part of a chapter, even if I wanted to! MathewTownsend (talk) 00:49, 28 February 2012 (UTC)
- Dear Mathew - read ur commentary on the page on meta focussing on Funds and so on. Please dont be sarcastic. If there will be numbers, there will be a discussion. The article here shows, that there are none. But thats not the point. U cant shift all the evil to Mrs. Gardner. She made proposals, others should have contributed. They did not in Paris, as we read. So she can only make recommendations for strategic reasons - but that shouldnt be the point either. The point is: How is that structure to be dealt with: The WMF - the chapters - the authors. Who is what in that chain? How can we make benefit possible for all (and dont forget the donors, its a complicated system to resolve). --Angel54 5 (talk) 03:01, 28 February 2012 (UTC)
- I'm not being sarcastic. I had no idea about this chapter business until now. I'm not shifting the blame to Gardner. Personally, I think she is right on - she sees how screwed up things are and she is pessimistic that there is any kind of will in WMF to fix things. She is the only one that seems to see what is going on and how destructive it is. Isn't it a little strange that the US has no chapter? The Signpost editor says this is old news, that anyone can find this out in 10 seconds. But now I am understanding some things and how unlikely anything about en:wp specifically is going to be fixed. It is obvious to me that WMF has its own agenda, and that when they speak of "community" they are talking about something completely different than when people on en:wp speak of "community". MathewTownsend (talk) 03:22, 28 February 2012 (UTC)