Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Memorial Day Miracle
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Non-notable. Fails WP:NEO, as there are no reliable, verifiable sources using the term. The article is completely unsourced. Pablo Talk | Contributions 20:41, 17 June 2007 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Basketball-related deletions. -- John Vandenberg 00:25, 18 June 2007 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Texas-related deletions. -- John Vandenberg 00:25, 18 June 2007 (UTC)
- Keep Okay, I never heard of it, but it's apparently a great moment in pro basketball history, right up there with the Immaculate Reception, the Miracle on Ice, the Helicopter Game, etc. Mandsford 00:28, 18 June 2007 (UTC)
- Weak keep It's not on par with the Miracle on Ice, but it's an interesting moment in NBA history. The NBA itself lists Sean Elliott's game as a legendary performance; in addition, the book 'At the Buzzer' devotes an entire section to Elliott's game-winning shot (which also appears on the cover of the book - see top image). As for the nom's claim that "there are no reliable, verifiable sources using the term," I found 91 Google News hits for "memorial day miracle" + "sean elliott"; the term also appears in the two sources I mentioned above. Zagalejo 02:23, 18 June 2007 (UTC)
- Keep, there seems to be many reliable sources for the event and the name; there seems to be a very clear link to the NBA reference at the bottom of the article. How did you go about determining that there were no 'sources using the term'? Kuru talk 01:34, 20 June 2007 (UTC)
- Strong Keep, I remember the moment well and it was an extremely important event in basketball that needs to have an article.--Southern Texas 05:04, 20 June 2007 (UTC)
- Delete. There are plenty of sources, as Zagalejo says, that use the term "Memorial Day Miracle." However, I still think the article covers a non-notable topic. Mention of it certainly belongs on relevant pages (such as Sean Elliott, San Antonio Spurs, 1999 Western Conference Finals, etc.) but the shot in itself is not notable. It received significant coverage, but only to the extent that every NBA game is covered by mainstream media. There are no articles for John Havlicek's dramatic steal or buzzer-beaters by John Paxson and Robert Horry. I know this is the ever dreaded what about X argument, but I think it's reasonable to assume that those events form a solid peer group. Articles in the category "National Basketball Association lore" (of which the MDM articles is a part of) point to an individual player's page such as Gar Heard; why should this be different? SliceNYC (Talk) 21:18, 20 June 2007 (UTC)