Draft talk:Bove Path

Autumn 2024 Educational Project Page

This page is part of an Educational Project by students of LIUC, Italy, with a course page at: [1]https://outreachdashboard.wmflabs.org/courses/LIUC_-_Universit%C3%A0_Cattaneo/Digital_Technology_(October_-_December,_2024) . The users of the group are new to the Wikipedia platform, have completed mandatory Training for Students, and are learning to edit following Wikipedia rules. They are open to any advice on improvements of the page in conformity to Wikipedia requirements and guidelines, and any help useful for the enhancement of the page will be gladly accepted. The student Usernames are:

LIUCGiorgio
MyrtheLiucT2
LIUCChia.05
LIUCHéloïse2
LiucRiky
LIUCMaxiTeam2
LIUCandyGroup02

Issues or questions can be referred direct to the users or to their tutor @Limelightangel Limelightangel (talk) 13:05, 12 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Draft feedback 12/11/24

@LIUCGiorgio, MyrtheLiucT2, LIUCChia.05, LIUCHéloïse2, LiucRiky, LIUCMaxiTeam2, and LIUCandyGroup02:

note the guidelines and good practice on lead sections, look at other pages and remove 'Introduction' for the Lead Section. See: Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Lead section. Use this to develop this section, which needs to include the Italian name at this point, the length, start-end points, and extablish notability (1st/oldest via ferrata, etc. - currently erronerously in History section). The lead has no heading. See also Wikipedia:Writing_better_articles#Lead_section.
4 references are incorrectly inserted below the reference header tag. See Help:Referencing for beginners and similar
needs adding to relevant Categories. See Help:Category
needs See Also and External Links sections. Understand the differences between these sections and types of links. See Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style/Layout#"See_also"_section and Wikipedia:External links. See how it is done on other pages
needs a map of the path. Plenty online.
structure:
- Location needs to come before History;Geology befor Cultural significance; etc.
- the following text should not be in History: "The Sentiero Bove (Bove Path) is one of the most iconic hiking routes in the Italian Alps, recognized for being the first via ferrata (iron path) and Alta Via (high-altitude trail) in the region. Located in the Parco Nazionale Val Grande,..."
- History section needs better structure. First sub-section Origins (with the pastoral origins and Bove's death), then the sub-sections on the actual history of the path.
referencing:
- inconsistencies in reference format related to use of upper case characters and to identify non-English sources
- non-English rsources are acceptable but need to be complimented and balanced with English sources accessible to the platform's audience. See Wikipedia:Verifiability#Non-English_sources
style:
- avoid the use of unnecessary, subjective and biased vocabulary e.g. 'home to the'; 'most iconic'; 'Today'; 'However'; 'groundbreaking,'; 'hidden in the rocky folds'; etc. See Manual_of_Style#Vocabulary
- the style in the Stages sub-section is inappropriate and includes personal tense and travel guide type content e.g. 'hut is already in sight'; etc.
grammar: inconsistencies in use of italics
use of the topic name: the topic is Bove Path, but the Italian name is used in many places
duplicate content e.g. 'Located in the Parco Nazionale Val Grande'; memorial to Bove; etc. Needs better structure.
linking: See Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Linking.
- You link out once, the first time the linked text is used
- do not duplicate links out (at least 4)
needs topic-relevant images to support adjacent text sections
the Geology section is relevant, but needs better relevance to the page topic rather than the surrounding region
additional sources:
- there is some relevant historical information (in Italian) via Google Books, particularly related to historic Alpine Club sources
given the extensive issues listed here it is advised to discuss & correctly 'check off' issues where they are listed when completed to manage these tasks. See Help:Talk
the page needs relevant and acceptable images locared with the relevant text sections. There are many online which need pursuing for acceptable licensing and use.
linking in: the page has potential for relevant links from and to the page. These include several existing pages for which links to this page can be created.

Limelightangel (talk) 14:15, 12 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Flora paragraph

I added the paragraph on the Flora topic LIUCGiorgio (talk) 08:59, 15 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Meteorological paragraph

I called the CNR in pallanza (consiglio nazionale delle ricerche) this morning to collect information on the weather in the nation park and I am waiting for the content to be sent to me via email. it should come through on Monday, then I will be able to write the paragraph. LIUCGiorgio (talk) 14:36, 15 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Corrected a few wrong links and overlinks.

References

Hi Everyone,

During the meeting, Mr. Walker talked about the sources and mentioned that we need to improve them. Was he referring to the Non-English sources? or about ref 8 and 15? I feel like I might have missed his point. Could you help me summarize what he meant with that feedback? Thank you

MyrtheLiucT2 (talk) 16:33, 19 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Draft feedback 22/11/24