Five Grains: Revision history

20 October 2024

• curprev 21:3621:36, 20 October 2024 J2UDY7r00CRjH talk contribs m 11,793 bytes +4 →Archaeology: grammar undo
• curprev 21:3521:35, 20 October 2024 J2UDY7r00CRjH talk contribs m 11,789 bytes −19 →Archaeology: fix wikilink undo
• curprev 21:3121:31, 20 October 2024 J2UDY7r00CRjH talk contribs m 11,808 bytes 0 →Archaeology: fix wikilink undo
• curprev 21:3021:30, 20 October 2024 J2UDY7r00CRjH talk contribs m 11,808 bytes −9 →History: remove redundant word undo
• curprev 21:2921:29, 20 October 2024 J2UDY7r00CRjH talk contribs m 11,817 bytes 0 →History: grammar undo

16 October 2024

• curprev 18:1218:12, 16 October 2024 J2UDY7r00CRjH talk contribs 11,817 bytes −1 fix ref, fix typo undo
• curprev 01:4001:40, 16 October 2024 J2UDY7r00CRjH talk contribs 11,818 bytes +354 add Houji as originator of five grains undo

15 October 2024

• curprev 21:4221:42, 15 October 2024 J2UDY7r00CRjH talk contribs 11,464 bytes +18 →History: clarify ref undo
• curprev 20:0520:05, 15 October 2024 J2UDY7r00CRjH talk contribs 11,446 bytes −969 remove weak, unavailable or mostly unrelated sources from Houji statement. Jixu is very in depth on Houji and should be enough. The 中國通史: 史前, 夏, 商, 西周 source is still a problem because I can't seem to find the version that was originally quoted and it even used a seemingly invalid isbn undo
• curprev 19:0919:09, 15 October 2024 J2UDY7r00CRjH talk contribs 12,415 bytes +632 add Huangdi Neijing source, reword Daoxuan to not confuse the reader into thinking that daoxuan's list is another true version of "five grains" undo
• curprev 16:3016:30, 15 October 2024 J2UDY7r00CRjH talk contribs 11,783 bytes +160 fix chen and chinaculture refs undo
• curprev 16:1316:13, 15 October 2024 J2UDY7r00CRjH talk contribs 11,623 bytes −77 fix circa usage undo
• curprev 16:0816:08, 15 October 2024 J2UDY7r00CRjH talk contribs 11,700 bytes +371 use reflist undo

14 October 2024

• curprev 05:3605:36, 14 October 2024 J2UDY7r00CRjH talk contribs 11,329 bytes +3 →Gallery: use same type of images for each plant (feel free to disagree and change this. I find this too look nicer) undo
• curprev 05:1905:19, 14 October 2024 J2UDY7r00CRjH talk contribs m 11,326 bytes −7 →History: typo undo
• curprev 05:1805:18, 14 October 2024 J2UDY7r00CRjH talk contribs m 11,333 bytes +9 →History undo
• curprev 05:1705:17, 14 October 2024 J2UDY7r00CRjH talk contribs 11,324 bytes −3,801 remove mythical accounts section: added the relevant points in the history section. Houji and huangdi are not discussed as originating wugu so there is not much point in giving them their own sections. Shennong was summarized and expanded (via xinyu mention) so no need to give the whole story in its own section (also may be a copyright issue to take the translation from Handbook of Chinese Mythology word for word as was the case until this edit) undo
• curprev 05:1205:12, 14 October 2024 J2UDY7r00CRjH talk contribs 15,125 bytes +1,261 moderinze refs and mention myths in history undo
• curprev 04:1004:10, 14 October 2024 J2UDY7r00CRjH talk contribs 13,864 bytes −124 →Gallery: no source undo
• curprev 02:5402:54, 14 October 2024 J2UDY7r00CRjH talk contribs 13,988 bytes +446 add xinyu source and reword heianzhuan undo
• curprev 01:0001:00, 14 October 2024 J2UDY7r00CRjH talk contribs 13,542 bytes +899 add Bretschneider source undo
• curprev 00:2300:23, 14 October 2024 J2UDY7r00CRjH talk contribs 12,643 bytes −236 not sure if two sources are really needed here. The quoted source here seems a bit off from the others I have read, saying "some commentators substituted ma 8 for rice." when really it was the other way around. This same source quotes "Bretschneider voL Il, p. r 37," so I will try to find and use that instead undo
• curprev 00:1000:10, 14 October 2024 J2UDY7r00CRjH talk contribs 12,879 bytes +2 reword to make Daoxuan's list to be less of an opposition to the main list (see talk page) undo
• curprev 00:0700:07, 14 October 2024 J2UDY7r00CRjH talk contribs m 12,877 bytes −1 fix ref undo
• curprev 00:0600:06, 14 October 2024 J2UDY7r00CRjH talk contribs m 12,878 bytes 0 fix ref undo
• curprev 00:0600:06, 14 October 2024 J2UDY7r00CRjH talk contribs m 12,878 bytes +9 fix ref undo
• curprev 00:0500:05, 14 October 2024 J2UDY7r00CRjH talk contribs m 12,869 bytes +2 fix ref undo
• curprev 00:0400:04, 14 October 2024 J2UDY7r00CRjH talk contribs 12,867 bytes +308 add "six grain" theory (leaving 9 grain out for now as it seems a bit too confusing for this article as currently written) undo

13 October 2024

• curprev 23:4223:42, 13 October 2024 J2UDY7r00CRjH talk contribs 12,559 bytes −66 →Gallery: remove Sorghum. I believe this is an error in the translation of Proso millet undo
• curprev 23:4023:40, 13 October 2024 J2UDY7r00CRjH talk contribs 12,625 bytes −244 fix References section undo
• curprev 23:3323:33, 13 October 2024 J2UDY7r00CRjH talk contribs 12,869 bytes −1,276 remove excessive many see also entries. Most of these have only a single mention of "five grains" undo
• curprev 23:2623:26, 13 October 2024 J2UDY7r00CRjH talk contribs 14,145 bytes −1,387 remove modern culinary usage: no reliable sources cited and what's written here doesn't seem relevant to the topic of the article. "five dry seeds " is not the same as the topic of "five grains" undo
• curprev 17:5517:55, 13 October 2024 J2UDY7r00CRjH talk contribs m 15,532 bytes −4 No edit summary undo
• curprev 17:5417:54, 13 October 2024 J2UDY7r00CRjH talk contribs m 15,536 bytes +5 No edit summary undo
• curprev 17:5417:54, 13 October 2024 J2UDY7r00CRjH talk contribs 15,531 bytes −99 hopefully this helps clarifies what "wugu" actually means: There is a historically used term "wugu" that refers to five crops specifically, with a debate on if to include rice or hemp. This term is still used today to refer to five specific grains, both from a cultural sense and in discussing Chinese history. Separately, the term is also used today to refer to all kinds of crops due to the increased number of grains cultivated today in china. undo
• curprev 16:2616:26, 13 October 2024 J2UDY7r00CRjH talk contribs m 15,630 bytes +4 typo undo
• curprev 16:2516:25, 13 October 2024 J2UDY7r00CRjH talk contribs 15,626 bytes +256 add second source on modern usage undo
• curprev 16:1316:13, 13 October 2024 J2UDY7r00CRjH talk contribs 15,370 bytes 0 typos undo
• curprev 16:0316:03, 13 October 2024 J2UDY7r00CRjH talk contribs 15,370 bytes −433 revert removing "5" from the lede and the point about not being a numeric value. Additionally, wugu is first mentioned in the Analects and is likely not actually related to wuxing. The number "five" is certainly important as there are also those who hold of "six grains" and "nine grains." Feel free to open a talk page entry if you want to discuss more. undo Tag: Manual revert

12 October 2024

• curprev 21:0221:02, 12 October 2024 Dcattell talk contribs 15,803 bytes +1 copy edit undo Tag: Reverted
• curprev 21:0021:00, 12 October 2024 Dcattell talk contribs 15,802 bytes +432 work on lead undo Tag: Reverted

11 October 2024

• curprev 22:4922:49, 11 October 2024 Citation bot talk contribs 15,370 bytes −55 Altered title. Add: pmc, pmid, doi-access. Removed URL that duplicated identifier. | Use this bot. Report bugs. | Suggested by Ira Leviton | Category:CS1 maint: unflagged free DOI | #UCB_Category 31/42 undo
• curprev 19:5619:56, 11 October 2024 J2UDY7r00CRjH talk contribs 15,425 bytes +21 →History: wikilink undo
• curprev 19:5319:53, 11 October 2024 J2UDY7r00CRjH talk contribs m 15,404 bytes −12 No edit summary undo
• curprev 19:5119:51, 11 October 2024 J2UDY7r00CRjH talk contribs 15,416 bytes −228 remove "groups of" from lede as no sources I found besides that one paper quoted below say it and even then it isn't clear that those "five grains" are another version of the "five grains" mentioned here that come from the Analects. All other sources leave the confusion of what is wugu to rice and hemp (and one of the millets). None mention any groups of grains. undo
• curprev 19:1119:11, 11 October 2024 J2UDY7r00CRjH talk contribs 15,644 bytes −136 remove dictionary statement about sesame, oats etc being in the five grains. This used to be referenced to MBDG (see eg. https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Five_Grains&diff=prev&oldid=568336800). Since it is user generated why cannot use it, and the mention of "sesame" seems to be a mistranslation of "麻" here undo
• curprev 17:5917:59, 11 October 2024 J2UDY7r00CRjH talk contribs 15,780 bytes +601 add modern usage undo
• curprev 03:4703:47, 11 October 2024 J2UDY7r00CRjH talk contribs 15,179 bytes +1,413 fix what I think was an error in quoting liji and add more sources on the debate on rice vs hemp. There is still a lot more in the sources I added and more in other sources I haven't yet cited. I'm also unsure about keeping the other explanations of five grains. The Shennong claim has no source and the Buddhist source seems somewhat undo without the qualifier that most people do not mean the Buddhist version of "five grains" and it doesn't seem to be based on 'the Analects,? undo

10 October 2024

• curprev 21:2921:29, 10 October 2024 J2UDY7r00CRjH talk contribs 13,766 bytes +24 move list of grains to top as this is definitional to the article. add cn to dictionary claim undo
• curprev 21:2721:27, 10 October 2024 J2UDY7r00CRjH talk contribs 13,742 bytes +446 add citation for hemp and rice dispute. Correct "Classic of Rites compiled by Confucius" -> "Classic of Rites compiled by Confucius' students". Although the source I added does not attribute this dispute to liji specifically, instead to Mencius. In any event it gives a source of the dispute between hemp and rice undo