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Replace and Update an Image[edit]

How does one delete their own image? or, how does replace to update an image on the same file. I created a image a while ago, and it needs to be updated. --Dmm1169 (talk) 03:45, 22 January 2009 (UTC)

I don't know the answer to your question, but your question would probably be answered more quickly at the help desk. I will move it there. pluma Ø 02:33, 24 October 2011 (UTC)

Claimed right-click bug[edit]

I moved the below from the main page (Help:Images and other uploaded files). If it's an actual bug (which I'm skeptical of) it should be filed at https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/:

Since October 2007, in English Wikipedia, the right-click menu has periodically been blocked for many PNG images, so that Open in new Window or properties/size information was no longer available in Wikipedia for PNG or SVG images. The disabled right-click/size menu has only occurred in English Wikipedia, not Wikimedia Commons or other language Wikipedias, and right-click has not been disabled for the efficient GIF or JPEG image displays. It is a recurring problem: every few months, the right-click menu seems to work again for PNG/SVG images, but then the problem comes back: the right-click menu would then show the size of the whole article under a PNG Properties option (and not allow Open in new Window).
Whenever the right-click menu has been disabled, the images were still ok in the Commons or German Wikipedia, etc. To view PNG or SVG properties/sizes of thumbnailed images, edit a Wikimedia Commons page (or other-language wikipedia) to link the particular image, in edit-preview mode, then right-click the PNG/SVG thumbnail to view the properties or see other right-click menu options formerly available in Wikipedia for PNG/SVG images.

--Superm401 - Talk 09:20, 17 March 2009 (UTC)

HELP!![edit]

Sorry if this doesn't belong here but I am REALLY stuck on this one and don't know where else to go.

I recently moved my wiki from one host to another and everything went fine, except that all my images are now doing ... this. Clicking on the blank thumbnail takes you not to the image, but back to the "Image:whatever" page. Clicking on the link under the thumbnail, takes you to the image. No images are displaying in articles.

I have NO idea what went wrong here. All the images that got migrated over are doing the same thing. If I upload a new image (like this), or a newer version of the same image (like this), then it works and everything is fine. All the old ones, though, are pooched.

ANY help would be greatly appreciated, since I really, really don't want to have to re-upload all those images again. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Grugnir (talkcontribs) 16:53, 4 May 2009 (UTC)

UPDATE:
Here's what I managed to find in the code for the image pages. Not sure if this will help, but...

<div class="fullImageLink" id="file"><a href="/gorole/index.php?title=Image:AK-47_type_II_Part_DM-ST-89-01131.jpg" class="image" title="AK-47 type II Part DM-ST-89-01131.jpg"><img alt="" src="/gorole/skins/common/images/icons/fileicon.png" border="0" height="120" width="120"></a></div>

Why it's defaulting to fileicon.png, I have no idea...--Grugnir (talk) 18:36, 4 May 2009 (UTC)

Redirect to WP images page?[edit]

This page is in bad shape. Its lead does not summarize the body, and it contains lots of obsolete and detailed info that is not helpful to a new user. It'd be better for a new user to not read that page than to read it. Should we delete it, replacing it with a redirect to WP:IMAGES? Surely this page is not actually used much for help: WP:Images and WP:EIS seem to cover the territory. Eubulides (talk) 22:35, 20 July 2009 (UTC)

Moved to WP:Files - Note: This was when the page was called 'images and other uploaded files' Has been a couple of copyeds since too Lee∴V (talkcontribs) 23:51, 4 November 2009 (UTC)
Yes check.svg Resolved.
I made the archives box link to Help talk:Images and other uploaded files/Archive 1 and added a search box die each archive. -84user (talk) 23:16, 21 November 2009 (UTC)

Drastically shorten[edit]

Following up on my previous comment, I decided to create a short help page instead, as that should be more useful. I installed this and further comments are welcome. Eubulides (talk) 23:54, 30 July 2009 (UTC)

Draft for paragraph discussing more-advanced issues[edit]

There's some sentiment for introducing new readers to more-advanced issues such as galleries, so I propose appending the following paragraph to Help:Files#Using.

"Many options control how images are displayed. You can place an image on the left, on the right, centered, and without text flowing around it. You can adjust the image size, and let the reader move around in a panorama. You can avoid image stackups in several ways, for example, by alternating left and right images, by aligning two or more images, and if all else fails by forcing a break. You can create a gallery of images arranged into an array by using table syntax, by using a template such as {{Image gallery}}, and by using a gallery tag (unfortunately, gallery tags do not support alt text, so they generate galleries that are not accessible to readers who cannot see the images). Also, you can create plain pictures that do not have captions and can be mingled with text and other images; these can use more fine-grained techniques, including borders, vertical alignment with text, and control over links. You can also link to an image without displaying it. These options are described in more detail in the picture tutorial."

This would remove the need for the See also section since it incorporates discussion of galleries. Eubulides (talk) 18:16, 11 September 2009 (UTC) Draft updated as discussed below. Eubulides (talk) 17:36, 12 September 2009 (UTC)

Very nice! But since the specific link that is now in the see also section isn't here, we should not remove it. What are you so burning to remove that that see also. Having see also's is the most ordinary thing in the world. Debresser (talk) 17:06, 12 September 2009 (UTC)
Thanks. As WP:SEEALSO says, See also sections are intended for "less developed" articles. This page is intended to be a brief and self-contained help page; it is not intended to develop into a long, complicated page (the complications are supposed to be in the referenced pages, not here). As mentioned above, the reluctance to mention Wikipedia:Gallery tag is because gallery tags generates galleries with serious WP:ACCESSIBILITY problems. However, it's OK to mention gallery tags if we also mention the problem. I have adjusted the above draft to do that. Eubulides (talk) 17:36, 12 September 2009 (UTC)
You are very POV against galleries. That is your good right. But people use them a lot. And they don't care about the shortcomings you see in them. So you can't ignore them. And since you do not plan to mention anything about them, and they are related and relevant, you should have a see also there. Debresser (talk) 18:20, 12 September 2009 (UTC)
The previous comment seems to have ignored what's currently in the draft. The draft currently says that users can create galleries "by using a gallery tag". You are correct that users can ignore guidelines such as WP:ACCESSIBILITY and WP:ALT, but it is not good practice to ignore consensus guidelines, and the help pages should be written with the guidelines in mind. Eubulides (talk) 18:40, 12 September 2009 (UTC)
I'm sorry, I missed that. You did a good job here! Debresser (talk) 08:11, 15 September 2009 (UTC)

Inaccessible file[edit]

I have a file called Golden Ears.jpg on Commons and I want to replace the existing file (Golden Ears Mountain.JPG) with on the Golden Ears (peaks). Unfortunately, there is an article on the English Wikipedia called Golden Ears.jpg, and so when I type in the filename, the image on EnWiki comes up. How do I get the one on Commons to the article? --The High Fin Sperm Whale (TalkContribs) 23:35, 27 December 2009 (UTC)


Requested move[edit]

The following discussion is an archived discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the move request was: No concensus, page not moved  Ronhjones  (Talk) 00:49, 16 February 2010 (UTC)



Help:FilesWikipedia:Files — I am creating a series of pages aimed at helping readers of WP. See Category:reader help for a current list. I would like this page moved into Wikipedia namespace (the target is currently a redir) and then commandeer this page as one of my Reader help pages. Relisted by Jafeluv (talk) 09:23, 28 January 2010 (UTC)

-- Alan Liefting (talk) - 21:32, 19 January 2010 (UTC)

Survey[edit]

Feel free to state your position on the renaming proposal by beginning a new line in this section with *'''Support''' or *'''Oppose''', then sign your comment with ~~~~. Since polling is not a substitute for discussion, please explain your reasons, taking into account Wikipedia's naming conventions.

Discussion[edit]

Any additional comments:
  • I don't offhand see why readers need to be told about files: files are primarily a notion that editors need, not readers. What would be in the proposed new page? Perhaps that would help explain things. Eubulides (talk) 21:40, 19 January 2010 (UTC)
Readers will occasionally come across files such as videos, images and audio. I want to create a short article similar to Help:Images (a subset of Help:Files) that explains a little more about files. Some readers may want to know about the source, dates, copyright info about a file. I want a page that does not do into the complexities of page editing, uploading etc. -- Alan Liefting (talk) - 21:49, 19 January 2010 (UTC)
  • Might I make a suggestion, something bugged me about 'files', how about using 'help:multimedia' for your intended help page - this seems more apt and common usage - especially to readers? the more technical 'files' then sits comfortably as a hatnote? Lee∴V (talkcontribs) 00:38, 20 January 2010 (UTC)
Yeah, that seems reasonable. I guess "multimedia" is commonly understood to be pictures, videos, sounds. -- Alan Liefting (talk) - 08:25, 20 January 2010 (UTC)
  • Why should "reader help" be in the Wikipedia and not the Help namespace? Ucucha 18:22, 27 January 2010 (UTC)
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

Edit request on 12 May 2012[edit]


124.83.0.118 (talk) 00:27, 12 May 2012 (UTC)

Yes check.svg Done I changed nothing. →Bmusician 04:13, 12 May 2012 (UTC)

Renaming files[edit]

I think the new section Help:Files#Renaming files (permanent link) is too detailed for this page. Most editors will never deal with file renaming. It appears most of the text was copied from Wikipedia:File mover. I suggest to replace the section text with the below main link and one line. PrimeHunter (talk) 13:16, 14 September 2012 (UTC)

Only administrators and file movers can rename files. Others can suggest it with {{rename media}}.

{{Rename media}} then needs to be updated with the reasons for renaming, as a lot of requests are denied because they do not meet the criteria listed at Wikipedia:File mover, the bulk of which does not apply to standard users. ---— Gadget850 (Ed) talk 13:31, 14 September 2012 (UTC)
Good point, but there are many ways to get to {{Rename media}} so it should mention rename criteria in any case. I'm not a big fan of duplicating content which ought to be kept in sync (transcluding it would be an option). I have added "See rename criteria at Wikipedia:File mover#What files should be renamed?" right before the Usage line in the documentation for {{Rename media}}. I also added a See also link so more users will spot it.[1] PrimeHunter (talk) 13:47, 14 September 2012 (UTC)

Relevant RfD[edit]

Wikipedia:Files, which currently redirects here, has been nominated at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2013 April 17#Wikipedia:Files. Your views would be welcome in the discussion. Thryduulf (talk) 18:32, 17 April 2013 (UTC)

Makeover[edit]

The copy edit included the following general ideas:

  • describe terminology in the intro such as description page being also file page, file being a synonym for image, and for the title
  • use "page name" instead of the many variant terms readers might otherwise see on other help pages
  • don't link just to create a font change indicating a page name
  • use italics where replacement text goes in links and templates, (and for page names having no grammatical articles introducing them)
  • remove repetitious links to the same (tutorial) page
  • make several references to other sections of the page
  • use bullet- instead of number-lists

Most of the material was already there, but I moved some of it around, while rewording, and I added a few links to other help pages. — CpiralCpiral 00:46, 10 May 2013 (UTC)

PDF[edit]

I get an error when downloading Grand Ethiopian Renaissance Dam as a PDF, it says «Generation of the document file has failed.

Status: ! Package polyglossia Error: The current roman font does not contain the Ethiop». Can anybody fix this? Spumuq (talk) 11:04, 19 January 2015 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 23 July 2015[edit]

Tanvirjoy (talk) 23:31, 23 July 2015 (UTC)

Red question icon with gradient background.svg Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format. Stickee (talk) 00:45, 24 July 2015 (UTC)