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Article titles bolded in Watchlist[edit]

Sometimes random article titles appearing in my watchlist are bolded for no apparent reason. It is not because the change is over 500 bytes, and I cannot see any other explanation for it. It does not happen every time, and is only one or two titles at any given time. It is not the newest items on the list either. Has anyone else witnessed this before, or are able to explain it? Thanks, AtHomeIn神戸 (talk) 01:52, 26 January 2015 (UTC)

@Athomeinkobe: they show in bold if they've been changed since you last visited them. Click one of the bold links, then reload your watchlist and that link won't be bold anymore.
I'm wondering if there's a way to disable this, but I can't seem to find it. - Paul2520 (talk) 15:59, 23 July 2016 (UTC)
@Athomeinkobe and Paul2520: This bolding is supposed to be controlled by a preference checkbox, but there's currently a bug. It's being discussed at the technical Village Pump. -- John of Reading (talk) 16:52, 23 July 2016 (UTC)

Why can I no longer see my full watchlist, but only for the past 30 days?[edit]

. -- Kendrick7talk 03:13, 3 July 2016 (UTC)

@Kendrick7: Previous versions of the user interface mentioned an "All" option, but behind the scenes this was implemented with a 30-day limit for performance reasons. The user interface has been corrected. -- John of Reading (talk) 05:40, 3 July 2016 (UTC)
I'm sorry, @John of Reading: you said the problem had been corrected, but I still can't see past 30 days? -- Kendrick7talk 00:56, 19 July 2016 (UTC)
@Kendrick7: The English Wikipedia has been limited to 30 days for as long as I can remember. The limit is part of the software. See Help:Watchlist#cite note-2. https://noc.wikimedia.org/conf/highlight.php?file=CommonSettings.php says $wgRCMaxAge = 30 * 86400;. PrimeHunter (talk) 01:06, 19 July 2016 (UTC)

Limitations[edit]

One of the limitations seem to be the number of days a watchlist "records." I stopped editing on August 3, and came back some hours ago, and the watchlist stopped at August 5. It doesn't seem to have picked up August 3 and 4. Before, when I missed two or three days, I figured that, on those days, there was no activity at the articles I watch. But now, having been gone longer, it seems it's rather that some days weren't "recorded." Flyer22 Reborn (talk) 03:56, 8 August 2016 (UTC)

I guess you have to change one of the settings at Help:Watchlist#Options, maybe "Maximum number of changes to show in expanded watchlist". PrimeHunter (talk) 20:22, 8 August 2016 (UTC)
Thanks. I thought about going to my watchlist preferences to see what was going on. "Days to show in watchlist" was set to 3. I went ahead and changed it to 8. I changed the "Maximum number of changes to show in expanded watchlist" from 200 something to 400, but I'm not sure that was needed since I upped the "Days to show in watchlist" feature. Flyer22 Reborn (talk) 23:20, 8 August 2016 (UTC)

Legend[edit]

The Watchlist Legend seems to contain items that are somewhat misleading or perhaps out-of-date:

  • The "r This edit may be damaging and should be reviewed (more info)" line is not covered at section of this help page covering legend items, and moreover requires the user to install a beta extension, through a somewhat advanced process that most users are not likely to do, to actually display in one's list. That's not immediately apparent (even when clicking "more info"). It seems misleading to include it as a legend item for all users, who may reasonably interpret the lack of r flags in their watchlist to indicate that none of the edits are potentially damaging (we know how true that is, of course).
  • "D This edit was made at Wikidata" - I no longer see the option to show Wikidata edits (which I remember existing at one time, and it's still described in the Options section of this help page); is this still a flag that can ever show up on the watchlist? I know I haven't seen it anytime lately.
  • Related: under "Options" is the ability to show/hide "page categorization". I don't know what that functionally means and it doesn't seem to be covered here.

I don't know if this is the right place to raise this issue, please let me know if it's more appropriate elsewhere. FWIW, I have my watchlist Expanded and Enhanced. Antepenultimate (talk) 20:36, 25 September 2016 (UTC)

I didn't even know of the existence of those flags before you mentioned them here. I guess I don't look at the watchlist legend often enough. That said, I could see this being a minor problem to some. Dustin (talk) 21:16, 25 September 2016 (UTC)
Yeah, to be clear, I don't think this is a massive issue. Though I figure if it's confusing to me (I consider myself to be reasonably experienced), then I'd worry about how it may appear to a brand-new user, who would be most likely to need the legend and help pages to try and figure out this crazy place. At the very least, there's an opportunity to update this Help page to stay current with what users are encountering, but I don't consider myself enough of a Watchlist expert to make changes myself. Antepenultimate (talk) 21:36, 25 September 2016 (UTC)
I'm working on an update. PrimeHunter (talk) 21:46, 25 September 2016 (UTC)
Does [1] help? Your link "somewhat advanced process" is about how a wiki powered by MediaWiki can install the Ores extension. It's installed here at the English Wikipedia and users can easily enable it for their account at Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-betafeatures. PrimeHunter (talk) 21:58, 25 September 2016 (UTC)
Yes, thank you! That is a very thorough update and answers all of my questions. (I'll admit that I Ctrl-F'd "Page Categorization", and therefor missed the guidance that already existed that did not use that exact phrase - so that was my bad, though it's easier to find now, for sure.) And definitely my ignorance of extensions shows in that I did not realize that the process for ORES was for wikis, not users! Thanks for clearing up why "Wikidata" changes are no longer an option as well. All in all, thanks for such a quick yet thorough response! Antepenultimate (talk) 23:15, 25 September 2016 (UTC)