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Article titles bolded in Watchlist[edit]

Sometimes random article titles appearing in my watchlist are bolded for no apparent reason. It is not because the change is over 500 bytes, and I cannot see any other explanation for it. It does not happen every time, and is only one or two titles at any given time. It is not the newest items on the list either. Has anyone else witnessed this before, or are able to explain it? Thanks, AtHomeIn神戸 (talk) 01:52, 26 January 2015 (UTC)

@Athomeinkobe: they show in bold if they've been changed since you last visited them. Click one of the bold links, then reload your watchlist and that link won't be bold anymore.
I'm wondering if there's a way to disable this, but I can't seem to find it. - Paul2520 (talk) 15:59, 23 July 2016 (UTC)
@Athomeinkobe and Paul2520: This bolding is supposed to be controlled by a preference checkbox, but there's currently a bug. It's being discussed at the technical Village Pump. -- John of Reading (talk) 16:52, 23 July 2016 (UTC)

Why can I no longer see my full watchlist, but only for the past 30 days?[edit]

. -- Kendrick7talk 03:13, 3 July 2016 (UTC)

@Kendrick7: Previous versions of the user interface mentioned an "All" option, but behind the scenes this was implemented with a 30-day limit for performance reasons. The user interface has been corrected. -- John of Reading (talk) 05:40, 3 July 2016 (UTC)
I'm sorry, @John of Reading: you said the problem had been corrected, but I still can't see past 30 days? -- Kendrick7talk 00:56, 19 July 2016 (UTC)
@Kendrick7: The English Wikipedia has been limited to 30 days for as long as I can remember. The limit is part of the software. See Help:Watchlist#cite note-2. https://noc.wikimedia.org/conf/highlight.php?file=CommonSettings.php says $wgRCMaxAge = 30 * 86400;. PrimeHunter (talk) 01:06, 19 July 2016 (UTC)

Limitations[edit]

One of the limitations seem to be the number of days a watchlist "records." I stopped editing on August 3, and came back some hours ago, and the watchlist stopped at August 5. It doesn't seem to have picked up August 3 and 4. Before, when I missed two or three days, I figured that, on those days, there was no activity at the articles I watch. But now, having been gone longer, it seems it's rather that some days weren't "recorded." Flyer22 Reborn (talk) 03:56, 8 August 2016 (UTC)

I guess you have to change one of the settings at Help:Watchlist#Options, maybe "Maximum number of changes to show in expanded watchlist". PrimeHunter (talk) 20:22, 8 August 2016 (UTC)
Thanks. I thought about going to my watchlist preferences to see what was going on. "Days to show in watchlist" was set to 3. I went ahead and changed it to 8. I changed the "Maximum number of changes to show in expanded watchlist" from 200 something to 400, but I'm not sure that was needed since I upped the "Days to show in watchlist" feature. Flyer22 Reborn (talk) 23:20, 8 August 2016 (UTC)

Legend[edit]

The Watchlist Legend seems to contain items that are somewhat misleading or perhaps out-of-date:

  • The "r This edit may be damaging and should be reviewed (more info)" line is not covered at section of this help page covering legend items, and moreover requires the user to install a beta extension, through a somewhat advanced process that most users are not likely to do, to actually display in one's list. That's not immediately apparent (even when clicking "more info"). It seems misleading to include it as a legend item for all users, who may reasonably interpret the lack of r flags in their watchlist to indicate that none of the edits are potentially damaging (we know how true that is, of course).
  • "D This edit was made at Wikidata" - I no longer see the option to show Wikidata edits (which I remember existing at one time, and it's still described in the Options section of this help page); is this still a flag that can ever show up on the watchlist? I know I haven't seen it anytime lately.
  • Related: under "Options" is the ability to show/hide "page categorization". I don't know what that functionally means and it doesn't seem to be covered here.

I don't know if this is the right place to raise this issue, please let me know if it's more appropriate elsewhere. FWIW, I have my watchlist Expanded and Enhanced. Antepenultimate (talk) 20:36, 25 September 2016 (UTC)

I didn't even know of the existence of those flags before you mentioned them here. I guess I don't look at the watchlist legend often enough. That said, I could see this being a minor problem to some. Dustin (talk) 21:16, 25 September 2016 (UTC)
Yeah, to be clear, I don't think this is a massive issue. Though I figure if it's confusing to me (I consider myself to be reasonably experienced), then I'd worry about how it may appear to a brand-new user, who would be most likely to need the legend and help pages to try and figure out this crazy place. At the very least, there's an opportunity to update this Help page to stay current with what users are encountering, but I don't consider myself enough of a Watchlist expert to make changes myself. Antepenultimate (talk) 21:36, 25 September 2016 (UTC)
I'm working on an update. PrimeHunter (talk) 21:46, 25 September 2016 (UTC)
Does [1] help? Your link "somewhat advanced process" is about how a wiki powered by MediaWiki can install the Ores extension. It's installed here at the English Wikipedia and users can easily enable it for their account at Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-betafeatures. PrimeHunter (talk) 21:58, 25 September 2016 (UTC)
Yes, thank you! That is a very thorough update and answers all of my questions. (I'll admit that I Ctrl-F'd "Page Categorization", and therefor missed the guidance that already existed that did not use that exact phrase - so that was my bad, though it's easier to find now, for sure.) And definitely my ignorance of extensions shows in that I did not realize that the process for ORES was for wikis, not users! Thanks for clearing up why "Wikidata" changes are no longer an option as well. All in all, thanks for such a quick yet thorough response! Antepenultimate (talk) 23:15, 25 September 2016 (UTC)

Watchlist jumble[edit]

Today my watchlist has become a jumble of thick lettering, bolded and unbolded links, mixed medium size and large size print, and it's much harder to wander the eye through it. Was this changed sitewide or did I hit some key that jumbled styles. Thanks. Randy Kryn 11:54, 7 October 2016 (UTC)

@Randy Kryn: It's not just you; there's a discussion about it at Wikipedia:Village pump (technical)#Watchlist bolding. -- John of Reading (talk) 11:58, 7 October 2016 (UTC)
Thanks, will take a look. Randy Kryn 12:04, 7 October 2016 (UTC)

Watchlist markers[edit]

Could the "green markers" on watchlists be enlarged severalfold? On my watchlist, the markers' tiny size makes it hard to spot the blue markers that indicate items which I have reviewed. Thanks. Nihil novi (talk) 05:31, 12 October 2016 (UTC)

I think just a tiny dot in blue or green is not enough of a difference between 'processed' and 'unread' items on the watchlist, especially for people who are colourblind. I know this has already been discussed here, but I don't think it's solved. Can someone please help? Laurier (talk) 07:17, 12 September 2017 (UTC)
I just found this page and section. So it is possible to change this setting. But I think this is way too complicated for most users (including me), so the default should be changed. I hope you agree. Laurier (talk) 07:37, 12 September 2017 (UTC)

Community wishlist for the watchlist[edit]

JFYI: there are 24 proposals in the current community wishlist that you can vote for here: m:2016 Community Wishlist Survey/Categories/Watchlists.

Personally I think that making it easy to quickly see all changes (in a single diff) since one last visited a page would be of most use which is why I suggested it here.

--Fixuture (talk) 00:52, 3 December 2016 (UTC)

Thank you for notifying everyone about this. Of course, I'm partial to the idea of hiding edits from editors you trust in Watchlists and RC pages to make our watchlists (and RC pages) much more manageable, which I proposed. :) Stevie is the man! TalkWork 04:02, 4 December 2016 (UTC)

Is there a way to hide edits that got reverted[edit]

Is there? Bertdrunk (talk) 04:14, 4 February 2017 (UTC)

Sync/share[edit]

Is there a way to sync/ share watchlist between accounts? Aunva7 (talk) 21:31, 30 April 2017 (UTC)

@Aunva7: You can click Edit raw watchlist at top of the watchlist and manually copy-paste the content with your browser. PrimeHunter (talk) 22:35, 30 April 2017 (UTC)

Ah. That should work. Aunva7 (talk) 23:24, 30 April 2017 (UTC)

Bypass question screen when adding a page to my watchlist[edit]

Hi, is there a way to bypass the question screen when adding a page to my watchlist via the little blue star at the top? It used to be pretty straightforward once, but now it takes me away from the page I am reading, I have to click on a yes button and even so I am not brought back to the page I was reading but have to backtrack with navigation. I find this very annoying and I am surprized there is no option to bypass this in my preferences. Thanks. Hoverfish Talk 20:01, 18 June 2017 (UTC)

I rarely get a question screen but don't know what determines it. PrimeHunter (talk) 01:54, 19 June 2017 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 6 July 2017/ Diversity in the classroom[edit]

I would like to enrich this topic, I recently did a research and I am willing to share it. Diversity in the Classroom With the American society being so divers, the classrooms become increasingly diverse as well. With all different backgrounds; ethnicity, race, sex, sexual orientation, socioeconomic status, visible or invisible disabilities, sharing the same space, it represents opportunities for some and creates issues for others. It becomes necessary for the leadership in the educational institutions to manage and implement strategies that encourage a more inclusive learning environment, where all students can learn safely. This paper summarizes practical researches and studies on the benefits, and addresses some of the challenges associated with diversity in the classroom. Said.denver (talk) 06:59, 6 July 2017 (UTC)

Not done: this is not the right page to request additional user rights. You may reopen this request with the specific changes to be made and someone will add them for you, or if you have an account, you can wait until you are autoconfirmed and edit the page yourself. jd22292 (Jalen D. Folf) (talk) 10:05, 6 July 2017 (UTC)

Could a "Watchlist Preferences" button be added to the "Watchlist options" section?[edit]

Foolish me, but I've only just become aware that the Watchlist even had personal preferences options. I think other editors would find it helpful to have it "Watchlist Preferences" button right there, to clue them in. --Hobbes Goodyear (talk) 00:00, 8 July 2017 (UTC)

Limited to last 100 changes[edit]

Why is my watchlist limited to the last 100 changes? I've never seen that happen before. 100 changes is barely 24 hours. --SmokeyJoe (talk) 03:13, 12 August 2017 (UTC)

https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:Preferences#Watchlist
"This controls how many recent changes to show for each watched article when "Expand watchlist" is switched on under "Advanced options". Default is 250; maximum 1000 changes."
I never set this. Expanded watchlist was not is not checked. Is someone playing with settings? I changes to "1000" and now see 7 days, < 1000 changes. --SmokeyJoe (talk) 05:31, 12 August 2017 (UTC)

Nothing Appearing on Watchlist Anymore[edit]

About a week ago, my Watchlist went blank and nothing new has appeared on it. Before that, I could always see items on it and that is how I monitored the 500 or so articles that I regularly watch. What happened? How can I restore the previous functionality to my Watchlist? – Whaleyland (Talk • Contributions) 16:51, 15 August 2017 (UTC)

@Whaleyland: A feature has changed. Set a large number like 1000 at "Maximum number of changes to show in watchlist" at Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-watchlist. It's discussed at Wikipedia:Village pump (technical)#Watchlist changes. PrimeHunter (talk) 21:24, 15 August 2017 (UTC)
@PrimeHunter: Splendid! Thank you. Everything appears to be working again. I must say that that seems to be the dumbest change I've ever seen!  – Whaleyland (Talk • Contributions) 04:26, 16 August 2017 (UTC)

Watchlists reloading slowing down[edit]

Apparently, in the last 20 minutes a new watchlist design have been deployed. I do not have a strong opinion whether the design itself is an improvement or not, but it considerably slows reloading of the watchlist, like if a heavy gadget was deployed. This slowing down is smth I would like to avoid.--Ymblanter (talk) 16:42, 19 September 2017 (UTC)

+1 - I kid you not it takes mine a whole 10 seconds to load after each refresh - The previous took a mere second if that, Any chance this can be reverted atleast until the time it takes to load is fixed?... –Davey2010Talk 17:13, 19 September 2017 (UTC)
I do object to the design as it appears to use the space less efficiently. Not only am I having the same speed problems as above my computer is using considerably more processing power on it. --Emir of Wikipedia (talk) 17:16, 19 September 2017 (UTC)
I am gone now for several hours but if someone wants to take the problem up (Village Pump technical?) please feel free to do it.--Ymblanter (talk) 17:20, 19 September 2017 (UTC)
My load time isn't that bad but it is still considerably longer than it used to be. I also agree about the non-effective use of space. Why the drop downs for number of changes and how far back to view can't be in the same line as the mark all changes as read button I've no idea. Nthep (talk) 18:17, 19 September 2017 (UTC)
Someone's helpfully filed a Phabricator task about the slowness already, with a suggestion for how we might fix it. We'll take a look at that today. In the meantime, the new watchlist UI comes from the "New filters for edit review" beta feature (it previously only applied to the Recent changes page, but starting today it applies to the watchlist too), so you can disable the beta feature if it's causing issues for you. --Roan Kattouw (WMF) (talk) 19:26, 19 September 2017 (UTC)
@Roan Kattouw (WMF):, thanks for that. Is there anywhere we can feedback about the layout? Nthep (talk) 19:51, 19 September 2017 (UTC)
@Nthep: Yes there is! Your feedback is welcome at mw:Talk:Edit Review Improvements/New filters for edit review. --Roan Kattouw (WMF) (talk) 21:06, 19 September 2017 (UTC)

Viewed pages appearing as not being viewed[edit]

What the heck! Every page is shown as not being looked at even after clicking on "Mark all pages as visited" more than once:

  • "Below are the last 184 changes in the last 720 hours, as of October 24, 2017, 08:29."

Anyone else having this problem? Pyxis Solitary talk 08:32, 24 October 2017 (UTC)

Just want to report that whatever the bug was, the watchlist is back to normal behavior. Viewed pages are no longer remaining boldface. Pyxis Solitary talk 09:39, 25 October 2017 (UTC)