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| text = '''PLEASE stop trying to imitate the [["Weird Al" Yankovic]] music video for "[[White & Nerdy]]" by replacing the text of this article with "YOU SUCK!"''' It is disruptive and considered [[WP:Vandalism|vandalism]], and will be dealt with appropriately. If you are that desperate to see if it can be done, please visit the [[WP:Sandbox|Sandbox]]. |
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== Proposal to stop the majority of the vandalism == |
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I have a simple, yet intriguing solution to this vandal problem, where people keep writing "You suck!" on the article. Why dont we just simply make a redirect page, where people can write in "You suck!" all they want on the article. Then, of course, if there are people that actually want to view the article, they can simply click at the link on the top to view the actual article. |
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I still believe that we should use protection, of course, but I do believe that this proposal will stop the majority of the vandalism from happening.--[[User:Roflthatnoobgotowned|Roflthatnoobgotowned]] ([[User talk:Roflthatnoobgotowned|talk]]) 20:18, 9 July 2008 (UTC) |
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:Aside from the fact that the software doesn't contain any feature allowing people to do this (as far as I know), this is an encyclopedia and not a sandbox for vandals. '''''<font color="#FF0000">[[User:Hut 8.5|Hut 8.5]]</font>''''' 20:46, 9 July 2008 (UTC) |
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I don't think this would solve anything. People would still vandalize the main page anyway. No one wants to vandalize something if they're allowed to. People vandalize things because it makes others mad or frustrated. We would be better off banning users who do it, or possibly suggest the page be given full protection.[[User:Friginator]] 22 August 2008 <small>—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|undated]] comment was added at 03:58, 23 August 2008 (UTC)</small><!--Template:Undated--> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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:::::Though most vandals do it to make people mad. I think this case is just an on going joke. The people that put "You Suck" on this article see the video and come in here to try it. They don't know or care about AR. I think protecting the page is not a good idea. It takes away from the base of Wikipedia. The ability to come in and add new information at will. Wikipedia has enough moderators they can watch this article for "You Suck" Heck Wikipedia has enough bots doing work, make one that watches this article for "You Suck". [[User:Knotslanding|Knotslanding]] ([[User talk:Knotslanding|talk]]) 11:42, 14 November 2008 (UTC) |
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::::::That's a good idea. I wonder if bots have the power to suspend editing privileges? [[User:Steelbeard1|Steelbeard1]] ([[User talk:Steelbeard1|talk]]) 16:33, 14 November 2008 (UTC) |
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This isn't the only problem. I've seen people replacing the [[White & Nerdy]] page with the same sentence, probably because the video for that song is what sparked this wave of vandalism on both pages. [[User:Bramblestar (ShadowClan Leader)|Bramblestar (ShadowClan Leader)]] ([[User talk:Bramblestar (ShadowClan Leader)|talk]]) 22:40, 12 July 2008 (UTC) |
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:I say we just protect these pages. [[User:WPjcm|<font color="#000080">WP</font><font color="#00FF00">jcm</font>]]<sup>[[User talk:WPjcm|<font color="#FF4500">Words are cool</font>]]</sup> 19:15, 28 September 2008 (UTC) |
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Can we at least semi-protect it? [[User:WPjcm|<font color="#000080">WP</font><font color="#00FF00">jcm</font>]]<sup>[[User talk:WPjcm|<font color="#FF4500">Words are cool</font>]]</sup> 17:17, 29 November 2008 (UTC) |
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:Can this article be semi-protected again? [[User:Steelbeard1|Steelbeard1]] ([[User talk:Steelbeard1|talk]]) 12:08, 30 November 2008 (UTC) |
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::I've put the semiprotection back since it's clear the vandalism hasn't died down. '''''<font color="#FF0000">[[User:Hut 8.5|Hut 8.5]]</font>''''' 12:11, 30 November 2008 (UTC) |
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Is there still agreement that this should be an article focused on the Atlantic Record label, and that replacing content with troll memes should be treated as blatant vandalism? -- [[User:Infrogmation|Infrogmation]] ([[User talk:Infrogmation|talk]]) 17:16, 30 November 2008 (UTC) |
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:If you're asking if there is a consensus to block IPs on sight without warning for making one edit, no there is not such a consensus and never can be. If somebody vandalizes this page, warn them, and if they continue, then they should be blocked. There's nothing special about this article that requires making exceptions to [[WP:BLOCK]] (such as blocking IPs for 10 days, four hours after they stopped editing or after just one edit). - [[User:AuburnPilot|<font color="#000080">auburn</font><font color="#CC5500">pilot</font>]] [[User_talk:AuburnPilot|<small>talk</small>]] 22:46, 30 November 2008 (UTC) |
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::I think this talk page should be semi-protected as well. It's obviously getting vandalized as well. [[User:Steelbeard1|Steelbeard1]] ([[User talk:Steelbeard1|talk]]) 02:02, 1 December 2008 (UTC) |
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:::Talk pages are generally left open except in severe cases, and this one has only been vandalised by one IP in the last two weeks. '''''<font color="#FF0000">[[User:Hut 8.5|Hut 8.5]]</font>''''' 07:38, 1 December 2008 (UTC) |
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I like knotslanding's idea. [[User:Solar Flute|Solar Flute]] ([[User talk:Solar Flute|talk]]) <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|undated]] comment was added at 02:46, 22 December 2008 (UTC).</span><!--Template:Undated--> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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::::I reccomend semi protection (permanent) and then banning users for 1 hour, 3 hours, 7 hours, 24 hours, 72 hours, and then 240 hours (for repeat vandal IPs). If the final 10 day ban does not stop them then I reccomend a permanent IP ban. The other option would to to fully protect it and create a page such as [[Atlantic Records/New]] to allow people to add suggestions (which could be added by an admin) without threatening the artical. --'''[[User:Jekshadow|JekShadow]]'''<sub>[[User_talk:Jekshadow|talk]]</sub> 05:15, 3 March 2009 (UTC) |
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::::::How many years has this nonsense been going on? The trolls/vandals obviously won't give a damn if we keep throwing temporary, or even permanent bans, at them nonstop. I do think that permanent semi-protection is a good idea, as it has seemed to slow the vandalism down somewhat - yet 3 damned years after "White and Nerdy" came out, these morons are still messing things up for lulz. Banning accounts and/or IPs might not do much in the long run, since all they need do is create a new account or use a different computer/proxy server to get around such bans. And even if they can sneak around whatever degree of semi-protection we can have set up, our options are limited. I'd recommend '''full protection''', but ''only as a last resort.'' This s*** has got to stop. --[[User:SigmaX54|SigmaX54]] ([[User talk:SigmaX54|talk]]) 17:33, 3 March 2009 (UTC) |
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Al, what have you done? God there's basically no way to stop the vandals. This page should be ultra-locked or something. [[User:Kausill|Kausill]] ([[User talk:Kausill|talk]]) 14:17, 13 March 2009 (UTC) |
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:Keep the article (and the talk page, if possible) semi-protected and have zero tolerance for registered editors who deliberately vandalize this article. [[User:Steelbeard1|Steelbeard1]] ([[User talk:Steelbeard1|talk]]) 15:56, 13 March 2009 (UTC) |
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YA, they should have Atlantic Records, but have it redirect to a copy, free for people to vandalize called Alantic Records. [[Special:Contributions/64.231.10.91|<sub>THE</sub><sup>MASTER</sup>]] ([[User talk:64.231.10.91|Talk to the master]]) 23:49, 28 March 2009 (UTC) |
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How about a bot reverting all "YOU SUCK" edits? [[User:Thylacinus cynocephalus|Thylacinus cynocephalus]] ([[User talk:Thylacinus cynocephalus|talk]]) 01:53, 14 November 2009 (UTC) |
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== The "You Suck" vandalism has spread to Elektra Records == |
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Now that Atlantic has revived the [[Elektra Records]] imprint, the "You Suck" vandalism has spread to that article. I suggest zero tolerance for vandalism to that article as well. [[User:Steelbeard1|Steelbeard1]] ([[User talk:Steelbeard1|talk]]) 10:40, 16 June 2009 (UTC) |
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==Aretha== |
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Why is there not even a mention of [[Aretha Franklin]] on this page? It just seems very odd. |
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:This article is about the record label. See [[List of former Atlantic Records artists]] for mention of Aretha Franklin. [[User:Steelbeard1|Steelbeard1]] ([[User talk:Steelbeard1|talk]]) 11:00, 12 July 2009 (UTC) |
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== Ridin' Hood == |
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British Artist 'Ridin' Hood' was signed last week after performing at the 02 last month, its official. Please metion this in the article, his first album with them is called 'Gangster D.O.R.K' and isn't complete yet. <small><span class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Ridin04|Ridin04]] ([[User talk:Ridin04|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Ridin04|contribs]]) 18:03, 25 November 2009 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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YOU SUCK! <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/66.232.222.10|66.232.222.10]] ([[User talk:66.232.222.10|talk]]) 02:21, 20 June 2010 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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== Pending changes == |
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If there are no objections in the next few hours, I will change this page's protection to make use of the new Pending Changes system, so that all edits from new and unregistered users will require review. --[[User:Crazycomputers|Chris]] [[User talk:Crazycomputers|(talk)]] 10:47, 26 June 2010 (UTC) |
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: Okay by me; let's give it a try. [[User:Infrogmation|Infrogmation]] ([[User talk:Infrogmation|talk]]) 17:44, 26 June 2010 (UTC) |
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: I'm surprised a bot/script hasn't been written to deal with the uncreative vandalism affecting this article. I'm more surprised people still think vandalizing this is cute or funny, its totally old news. <font color="#BA181F">[[User:JBsupreme|JBsupreme]]</font> (<font color="#BA181F">[[User talk:JBsupreme|talk]]</font>) ✄ ✄ ✄ 21:21, 26 June 2010 (UTC) |
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== anti-vandal template == |
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does [[WP:Beans]] apply or are we going for [[WP:IAR]] ? --[[User:T1980|T1980]] ([[User talk:T1980|talk]]) 03:17, 16 July 2010 (UTC) |
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== Expansion of article == |
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I am currently working on expanding this article, which is (IMHO) pathetically inadequate. At this stage I am primarily working on incorporating material from the 1990 Wade and Picardie biography of Ahmet Ertegun (which I just bought) but I will reference as many other sources as is practical as the work expands. I would appreciate any comments or constructive criticisms. Thanks! [[User:Dunks58|Dunks]] ([[User talk:Dunks58|talk]]) 13:37, 4 July 2011 (UTC) |
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: Thank you. From first look, looks like good work. Much needed expansion of this article. I think the article was to long held back by all the effort put into fighting the idiot vandals who know absolutely zero about Atlantic other than a passing reference in a Weird Al video. [[User:Infrogmation|Infrogmation]] ([[User talk:Infrogmation|talk]]) 15:17, 4 July 2011 (UTC) |
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:Thank you! Hope I can do justice to this great subject. I've done a lot of work on the Warner Bros. Records article and hope to do the same here. One point if I may? I noticed that there was an new addition about the CBS distribution deal in the Early Years section - with respect, I think perhaps this is a misreading of the source? As I read it, the CBS guys were aghast that Atlantic was paying royalties to its artists (which is pretty ironic in the light of Ruth Brown's celebrated case against the label) but I don't read that story as meaning that it scuttled the deal and it doesn't explicitly say that in the Wade and Picardie book - what do you think? [[User:Dunks58|Dunks]] ([[User talk:Dunks58|talk]]) 23:11, 4 July 2011 (UTC) |
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:I hope you will weed out redundancies in the article created by revisions which do not take into account material already in the article. [[User:Steelbeard1|Steelbeard1]] ([[User talk:Steelbeard1|talk]]) 15:10, 11 July 2011 (UTC) |
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==Another aide to recurrent vandalism== |
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If its still continuing, how about some hidden text at the top of the page: |
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left bracket exclamation dash dash "Please do not replace this page with the message "YOU SUCK" in emulation of the Weird Al Yankovic "white and nerdy" video. Its been done before, it is considered vandalism, and could result in your being blocked from editing. If you want to see the effect, try the sandbox" dash dash right bracket. |
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This is used in a lot of lists, to remind people to not add names which are not notable. I know this wont stop determined vandals, but we could still stop people who learn to edit, but dont read the talk pages, and are not lost to reason and civility.[[User:Mercurywoodrose|Mercurywoodrose]] ([[User talk:Mercurywoodrose|talk]]) 06:19, 18 July 2011 (UTC) |
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== Edit request from Whyubhatin123, 23 July 2011 == |
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I need to do maintanence <small><span class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Whyubhatin123|Whyubhatin123]] ([[User talk:Whyubhatin123|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Whyubhatin123|contribs]]) 02:07, 23 July 2011 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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Revision as of 02:18, 23 July 2011
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