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== Did Wikipedia just crash? ==

i was trying to browse an article, and this message appeared
:This wiki has a problem

Sorry! This site is experiencing technical difficulties.
Try waiting a few minutes and reloading.

(Cannot contact the database server: Unknown error (10.0.6.26))

And well, im just letting you know--[[User:Josecarlos1991|Josecarlos1991]] ([[User talk:Josecarlos1991|talk]]) 23:38, 29 July 2009 (UTC)
:Yes (so it's not just me). It appears to be on the blink again... I ''really'' wish they would sort this out... editing is a pain when this happens. --<font face="serif">[[User: Candlewicke|<span style="color:red">can</span>]][[User:Candlewicke/List of signatories|<span style="color:black">dle</span>]][[WP:ITN/C|&bull;]][[User talk:Candlewicke|<span style="color:green">wicke</span>]]</font> 00:04, 30 July 2009 (UTC)
::Yeah, there are problems. Brion (a developer) recently added "DON'T REPORT DB FAILURE IT'S IN THE CHANNEL TOPIC Lots of sleeping DB connections on master, something needs to be killed" to the topic of the #wikimedia-tech IRC channel. Meaningless to me, but at least it shows it's being worked on. [[User:J Milburn|J Milburn]] ([[User talk:J Milburn|talk]]) 00:12, 30 July 2009 (UTC)
:::See [[sleep (Unix)]] and [[kill (Unix)]]. DB is database and master presumably refers to the master database/server. [[User:Modest Genius|<font face="Times New Roman" color="maroon"><b>Modest Genius</b></font>]] [[User_talk:Modest Genius|<sup>talk</sup>]] 02:58, 30 July 2009 (UTC)

"Our servers are currently experiencing a technical problem. This is probably temporary and should be fixed soon. Please try again in a few minutes." and so on... experienced error messages all day today every time I tried to access Wikipedia just to note. And yes, I did try again in a few minutes. Several times. Over several hours. I've only accessed this page now (this is getting a ''bit'' ridiculous at this stage). I take it everyone else experienced similar. Sorry if it sounds like I'm being confrontational or negative in any way... I had a free day and am a bit frustrated that so much editing time went to waste. Hopefully this stops soon. --<font face="serif">[[User: Candlewicke|<span style="color:red">can</span>]][[User:Candlewicke/List of signatories|<span style="color:black">dle</span>]][[WP:ITN/C|&bull;]][[User talk:Candlewicke|<span style="color:green">wicke</span>]]</font> 16:04, 31 July 2009 (UTC)
: Well, all is explained in the tech freenode channel on IRC. Nevertheless, this is a temporary problem and not related at all to the main page, so there's not really any point in needlessly discussing it. Maybe take it to [[WP:VP|a village pump]] if you're really concerned. <small><span style="border:2px solid #333333;">[[User talk:Garden|<font style="color:#333333;">&nbsp;'''GARDEN'''&nbsp;</font>]]</span></small> 16:29, 31 July 2009 (UTC)
::Sorry, that was my immediate reaction and I found this section easier to access then. Everything's fine now. Apologies for any inconvenience! :) --<font face="serif">[[User: Candlewicke|<span style="color:red">can</span>]][[User:Candlewicke/List of signatories|<span style="color:black">dle</span>]][[WP:ITN/C|&bull;]][[User talk:Candlewicke|<span style="color:green">wicke</span>]]</font> 17:16, 31 July 2009 (UTC)

I was terribly perturbed. I thought something might have happended to you all....[[User:Willski72|Willski72]] ([[User talk:Willski72|talk]]) 18:09, 31 July 2009 (UTC)

{{tl|editsemiprotected}} Centennial, California - Wikipedia, please and only give me acesss to edit this page
Quentin

:I don't understand your request, but only administrators can edit the main page. [[User:Hersfold|'''''<em style="font-family:Bradley Hand ITC;color:blue">Hers</em><em style="font-family:Bradley Hand ITC;color:gold">fold</em>''''']] <sup>([[User:Hersfold/t|t]]/[[User:Hersfold/a|a]]/[[Special:Contributions/Hersfold|c]])</sup> 03:32, 1 August 2009 (UTC)
::Might it be typos hidden on the Main Page by any chance? Tut tut... I would say [[WP:ERRORS]] but it seems to have been abandoned so I don't blame him/her... [[File:Smile.png]] --<font face="serif">[[User: Candlewicke|<span style="color:red">can</span>]][[User:Candlewicke/List of signatories|<span style="color:black">dle</span>]][[WP:ITN/C|&bull;]][[User talk:Candlewicke|<span style="color:green">wicke</span>]]</font> 03:44, 1 August 2009 (UTC)
:::Actually I'm pretty sure this has nothing to do with the main page, the OP has issues with what others are doing to [[Centennial, California]] which he/she mostly created and appears to want to be the only one to be able to edit it (see also his/her comments at [[User talk:Quentinwllcs#Centennial, California 3]]). Regardless, while [[WP:Errors]] has its problems (response can be slow particular around the late morning to early afternoon UTC, basically when the Americans are sleeping and the Europeans are busy with work/school/etc), it appears to be fine now. All the issues there appear to have been addressed. Bear in mind, as mentioned in numerous places, it's only really intended for simple errors that are easy to fix. If there's some sort of language issue which is not obvious, there may be some discussion but generally speaking that should be avoided, and for that reason, it's wise to provide clear references if the issue isn't clear and also ensure you consider [[WP:Engvar]] issues. If the admins aren't clear if you change is warranted, they're unlikely to act. And admins are oftern the only ones who watch it, because that's really it's purpose. If a discussion has been going on for a long time, there's a good chance no one is going to notice if you've achieved some sort of clear consensus so in that case, it may be wise to make it clear you have. In particular, using Errors to complain about sloppy admins, is not going to achieve anything fruitful, take that to the admin's user page or a more appropriate subpage. If you wish to request something be removed from ITN or whatever, that's fine provided it's clear to the admin this is warranted and it's clear to the admin it's what your requesting, however complaining about most unrelated issues is only likely to result in you being ignored. One thing I would emphasise, as with much of wikipedia, for better or worse admins are reluctant to get involved in wheel/edit wars and therefore to remove existing content, in other words, if you wish something to be removed from ITN, or DYK or whatever once it's been added it can actually be quite difficult and you may need some clear evidence for if not consensus, at least strong support for removal even if the thing should never have been there in the first place. This has little to do with problems in the way WP:Errors works but all to do with the way wikipedia works and while it may benefit admins and users who are willing to completely ignore consensus or ordinary rules, there's a reason why wikipedia works that way. From personal experience for perhaps 3 years now, I can say this is particularly the case for ITN, once something is on ITN, it can often be quite difficult to get it off it's one of the reasons I think why we tend to be quite strict in what we put up on ITN. Also, the problem of admins with little experience with ITN, completely ignoring normal procedure when something big comes up has been going on for a long time, even before we had templates thanking editors etc. Indeed it's not unheard of you can come to some sort of super consensus about something, e.g. the wording or when it should go up (for an expected event) except of course when it actually does come up some admin will come along, completely unaware of the discussion and do something else. It's frustrating, but something you learn to live with [[User:Nil Einne|Nil Einne]] ([[User talk:Nil Einne|talk]]) 06:45, 2 August 2009 (UTC)

Well if that doesnt answer your question i dont know what will![[User:Willski72|Willski72]] ([[User talk:Willski72|talk]]) 09:00, 2 August 2009 (UTC)

:Wow, that was a long and great reply. Yeah I know, it happens all the time. I just noticed it quite a lot today. Complain? I wouldn't have thought of requesting changes or asking questions in that way. But what can be done, just get on with it I guess. [[File:Smile.png]] --<font face="serif">[[User: Candlewicke|<span style="color:red">can</span>]][[User:Candlewicke/List of signatories|<span style="color:black">dle</span>]][[WP:ITN/C|&bull;]][[User talk:Candlewicke|<span style="color:green">wicke</span>]]</font> 22:13, 2 August 2009 (UTC)

== LaGuardia shutdown ==

Newsworthy? They're not allowing flights in or out, and the terminal's been shutdown. Maybe wait until the suspicions are reported? [[Special:Contributions/98.239.166.251|98.239.166.251]] ([[User talk:98.239.166.251|talk]]) 12:30, 1 August 2009 (UTC)
:Please go to [[WP:ITN/C]]. I warn that the people there are... "allergic" to U.S.-specific stories. &ndash;'''[[User:Howard the Duck|<font color="#FFA500">Howard</font>]] [[Special:Contributions/Howard the Duck|<font color="#FFA500">the</font>]] [[User talk:Howard the Duck|<font color="#FFA500">Duck</font>]]''' 12:31, 1 August 2009 (UTC)

::Alright, thanks. I'd assumed this was the place to post such things. Alas, as I write this, the story begins to appear more and more un-newsworthy. [[Special:Contributions/98.239.166.251|98.239.166.251]] ([[User talk:98.239.166.251|talk]]) 14:04, 1 August 2009 (UTC)

== The 1980 "Terrorist Bombings" in Bologna, Italy ==

[[File:Symbol move vote.svg|18px]] Moving to [[WP:ERRORS]]. --<font face="serif">[[User: Candlewicke|<span style="color:red">can</span>]][[User:Candlewicke/List of signatories|<span style="color:black">dle</span>]][[WP:ITN/C|&bull;]][[User talk:Candlewicke|<span style="color:green">wicke</span>]]</font> 17:45, 3 August 2009 (UTC)



== Cory Aquino ==

[[File:Symbol move vote.svg|18px]] Moving to [[WP:ERRORS]]. --<font face="serif">[[User: Candlewicke|<span style="color:red">can</span>]][[User:Candlewicke/List of signatories|<span style="color:black">dle</span>]][[WP:ITN/C|&bull;]][[User talk:Candlewicke|<span style="color:green">wicke</span>]]</font> 17:46, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

== Replace/remove picture of Gregor Baci in "Did you Know" section ==

[[File:Symbol move vote.svg|18px]] Moving to [[WP:ERRORS]]. --<font face="serif">[[User: Candlewicke|<span style="color:red">can</span>]][[User:Candlewicke/List of signatories|<span style="color:black">dle</span>]][[WP:ITN/C|&bull;]][[User talk:Candlewicke|<span style="color:green">wicke</span>]]</font> 22:45, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

===Is anyone looking at In the News?===
I would imagine that something happened in the world since Corazon Aquino passed away on 8/1/09. --[[User:Dashiellx|dashiellx]] ([[User talk:Dashiellx|talk]]) 14:41, 4 August 2009 (UTC)
:Please see [[WP:ITN/C]]. --[[User:BorgQueen|BorgQueen]] ([[User talk:BorgQueen|talk]]) 14:51, 4 August 2009 (UTC)
::All the more reason to allow non-admin long-time users to edit protected pages such as ITN. &ndash;'''[[User:Howard the Duck|<font color="#FFA500">Howard</font>]] [[Special:Contributions/Howard the Duck|<font color="#FFA500">the</font>]] [[User talk:Howard the Duck|<font color="#FFA500">Duck</font>]]''' 16:26, 4 August 2009 (UTC)
:::No, I am an admin and I am here and ready. It is just that we need more contributors who would update articles on time. --[[User:BorgQueen|BorgQueen]] ([[User talk:BorgQueen|talk]]) 16:33, 4 August 2009 (UTC)
::::The gay center shooting spree was rotting there, even after the AFD was closed. The Chinese one is more recent I dunno how long it stayed there. &ndash;'''[[User:Howard the Duck|<font color="#FFA500">Howard</font>]] [[Special:Contributions/Howard the Duck|<font color="#FFA500">the</font>]] [[User talk:Howard the Duck|<font color="#FFA500">Duck</font>]]''' 16:39, 4 August 2009 (UTC)
:::::As I said, please read [[WP:ITN/C]]. I and Candlewicke were waiting for support from other users. You could have helped a lot more by giving supports there than complaining here. --[[User:BorgQueen|BorgQueen]] ([[User talk:BorgQueen|talk]]) 16:43, 4 August 2009 (UTC)
::::::Oh well. Lack of support for borderline nominations was the problem, not updates. Sorted for now. [[File:Smile.png]] --<font face="serif">[[User: Candlewicke|<span style="color:red">can</span>]][[User:Candlewicke/List of signatories|<span style="color:black">dle</span>]][[WP:ITN/C|&bull;]][[User talk:Candlewicke|<span style="color:green">wicke</span>]]</font> 18:08, 4 August 2009 (UTC)
:::::::Actually the [[Pneumonic plague]] article wasn't properly updated and I had to work on it a bit myself before posting. The [[HIV]] article needs voluteers now... --[[User:BorgQueen|BorgQueen]] ([[User talk:BorgQueen|talk]]) 18:14, 4 August 2009 (UTC)
::::::::That's because I wasn't certain of its international significance and wanted further opinions. It is still only one town. I have updated HIV now too. --<font face="serif">[[User: Candlewicke|<span style="color:red">can</span>]][[User:Candlewicke/List of signatories|<span style="color:black">dle</span>]][[WP:ITN/C|&bull;]][[User talk:Candlewicke|<span style="color:green">wicke</span>]]</font> 19:23, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

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