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Contents
- 1 Main Page error reports
- 1.1 Errors in the summary of today's or tomorrow's featured article
- 1.2 Errors in In the news
- 1.3 Errors in today's or tomorrow's On this day
- 1.4 Errors in the current or next Did you know...
- 1.5 Errors in today's or tomorrow's featured picture
- 1.6 Errors in the summary of the current or next featured list
- 2 General discussion
Main Page error reports
Most issues relating to national variations of the English language have already been discussed here at length:
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To report an error on today's or tomorrow's Main Page, please add it to the appropriate section below.
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- Offer a correction if possible.
- References are helpful, especially when reporting an obscure factual or grammatical error.
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- Do not use {{edit fully-protected}}, which will not give you a faster response, and in fact causes problems if used here. (See the bottom of this revision for an example.)
- Done? Once an error has been fixed, or has rotated off the Main Page, or has been acknowledged as not an error, the error report will be removed from this page; please check the page's history for discussion and action taken.
- No chit-chat: Lengthy discussions should be moved to a suitable location elsewhere.
- Can you fix the issue yourself? If the error is with the content of an article linked from the main page, consider attempting to fix the problem rather than reporting it here.
Errors in the summary of today's or tomorrow's featured article
TFA today
TFA tomorrow
Errors in In the news
Errors in today's or tomorrow's On this day
OTD today
OTD tomorrow
Errors in the current or next Did you know...
DYK current
- "...that oppositionist delegates of the Philippine Constitutional Convention of 1971 were among the first to be arrested when Ferdinand Marcos declared martial law in the Philippines?" - "delegates of" sounds odd to me, "to" or "at" would sound more natural. DuncanHill (talk) 12:48, 17 November 2018 (UTC)
- ”the coat of arms of the Prince of Wales (pictured) features the Red Dragon, but with a white label of difference?” I don’t see any label of difference on the red dragon. (Also, “that” seems superfluous in these listings, but imagine that’s an issue for another day.) 2601:196:4901:767E:8C0B:A8B0:E3BD:95C0 (talk) 18:25, 18 November 2018 (UTC)
DYK next
DYK next next
Errors in today's or tomorrow's featured picture
POTD today
- Suggest spelling out the Saint in Saint Paul and Pacific Railroad to match our article. "Ten-mile" should be converted for our metric friends:
{{Convert|10|mi|adj=on}}. And a piped link to Duluth, Minnesota at the end is worth adding, in my opinion. Modulus12 (talk) 20:05, 17 November 2018 (UTC)
- Fixed it with about 30 min left on the main page! :) Killiondude (talk) 23:31, 18 November 2018 (UTC)
POTD tomorrow
Errors in the summary of the current or next featured list
FL current
FL next
General discussion
Requested move 24 October 2018
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– Not a subtemplate of {{Main Page}} (a redirect to {{Main Page toolbox}}), but instead of the actual main page. Main-page-related cruft tends to get put in Wikipedia namespace, so the CSS page should go there too. {{3x|p}}ery (talk) 01:18, 24 October 2018 (UTC) --Relisting. Iffy★Chat -- 14:09, 2 November 2018 (UTC)
- TemplateStyles CSS pages must have the sanitized-css content model to function, and only .css pages in the template namespace have that by default. I think it will keep the content model if moved outside of the template namespace, but if not, an admin can change it with Special:ChangeContentModel. (No opinion on which namespace is most appropriate, but when creating it, Template was the only option.) --Yair rand (talk) 02:55, 24 October 2018 (UTC)
- Comment - did not understand Yair rand's comment, nor do I understand what this "template" does as it has no documentation, but if indeed it's not a subtemplate of {{Main Page}}, then this clearly needs to be moved to a different name. --Gonnym (talk) 09:18, 24 October 2018 (UTC)
- Gonnym, Wikipedia:TemplateStyles may help you understand the comment. In short, the template will store the CSS rules which will be used to style the main page using the TemplateStyles extension of MediaWiki. Personally I would prefer that the Main Page be replaced with {{Main Page}} and all the markup be moved to Template:Main Page which is what Wikidata and Commons do. However, I think that I am among a minority. — fr + 10:13, 24 October 2018 (UTC)
- I have added this comment to the top of the CSS page to help clarify it (To any admin: feel free to improve my wording.) Remember, the Main Page is unique in that it is in the main article namespace, but is used like a portal, whose content is largely generated by templates. Unless there are modifications elsewhere (such as using Special:ChangeContentModel), my understanding is that a TemplateStyles CSS page must currently remain in the template namespace for it to function properly. Zzyzx11 (talk) 04:12, 25 October 2018 (UTC)
- Counterexample: Module:Citation/CS1/styles.css. {{3x|p}}ery (talk) 02:12, 30 October 2018 (UTC)
- Comment the mainpage is a portal, so shouldn't it be Portal:Main Page/styles.css ? -- 65.94.42.18 (talk) 03:54, 26 October 2018 (UTC)
- No, because that would be inconsistent with Wikipedia:Main Page/Tomorrow, Wikipedia:Main Page/sandbox, etc. {{3x|p}}ery (talk) 04:03, 26 October 2018 (UTC)
- Oppose Zero benefit. This is similar argument to mainpage being in article space and attempt to move it being consistently shot down. Wikipedia:Main Page/styles.css is also wrong, since mainpage is not in the project namespace, unless you can move it to Main Page/styles.css, then template namespace is the only and best place for it. –Ammarpad (talk) 05:43, 31 October 2018 (UTC)
- Support better place to put it than the template space. Keeps everything as sub pages of one page. Galobtter (pingó mió) 05:51, 31 October 2018 (UTC)
- Oppose Not only is there no benefit but it is supposed to be a template and not a page Abote2 (talk) 12:11, 4 November 2018 (UTC)
- Tentative support. As noted above, most of the non-mainspace pages related to the Main Page are in projectspace, and I don't see why this should be different; it helps to put everything together. "Tentative" because maybe moving this page across namespaces would cause technical problems (as it would if we moved the aforementioned module, for example), and of course it's more important to avoid breaking something than to have everything in the same general area. Nyttend (talk) 01:52, 5 November 2018 (UTC)
- Bumping thread to prevent archival. {{3x|p}}ery (talk) 03:07, 12 November 2018 (UTC)
- I added {{Do not archive until}} to the top of this section to prevent archival. Remove the code when you'd like it archived. Modulus12 (talk) 18:57, 12 November 2018 (UTC)
Edit-this-section links
It's possible to generate content (including links) that's only visible to administrators; if you are one, try viewing the Main Page source code logged out and look for the big red "Administrators! Yes, you!" warning or the edit-this-editnotice link that you get when you edit the page while logged in.
With this in mind, could we add little "edit" links, only visible to admins, to the dynamic sections of the Main Page? I'm thinking TFA, ITN, DYK, OTD, and the featured picture and list. DYK and ITN are of less importance, since one can always go to Template:DYK or Template:ITN, but since the others use a daily subpage structure, the only ways to reach them are to scroll down and find them on the transcluded templates section, or memorize the naming structure (which isn't the same in all of them) and go to today's date, e.g. Template:POTD protected/2018-11-10 or Wikipedia:Today's featured article/November 10, 2018. You can't just go to the abbreviations: Template:TFA is somehow stuck on a featured article from two weeks ago, Template:OTD is a redirect to Template:Update (maintenance template), Template:TFP doesn't exist, and Template:TFL redirects to a navbox for transport in London. Nyttend (talk) 12:30, 10 November 2018 (UTC)
- I think {{Main Page toolbox}} has all the links you're looking for. It's at the top of Wikipedia:Main Page/Errors, which is also transcluded to this talk page. Modulus12 (talk) 13:12, 10 November 2018 (UTC)
- So can we add admin-visible-only links from it to the right parts of the Main Page? Having them on a template that's on another page isn't significantly different from having them in the "pages transcluded on this page" section when I click edit. Nyttend (talk) 13:25, 10 November 2018 (UTC)
- Nyttend it should be noted that 'admin only'-links are not guaranteed to be admin-only. Alternate views, apps, things like wikiwand, screenreader, pdf print, etc are not guaranteed to know to hide such content. This is why generally we use them sparsely in things like maintenance templates, but not in main content. —TheDJ (talk • contribs) 11:06, 14 November 2018 (UTC)
- Oh, I was unaware of that. I figured the settings to hide them from non-admins were done on the server side: the server detects if you're an admin or not, and all other programs are never given an opportunity to see that these links exist. I wouldn't have proposed this had I known that. Nyttend (talk) 12:01, 14 November 2018 (UTC)
- @Nyttend, I created a script User:FR30799386/Main Page edit.js(install by adding
importScript('User:FR30799386/Main Page edit.js');to your Special:MyPage/common.js) which I think will provide you with the edit links you want. — fr + 05:33, 17 November 2018 (UTC)
- @Nyttend, I created a script User:FR30799386/Main Page edit.js(install by adding
- Oh, I was unaware of that. I figured the settings to hide them from non-admins were done on the server side: the server detects if you're an admin or not, and all other programs are never given an opportunity to see that these links exist. I wouldn't have proposed this had I known that. Nyttend (talk) 12:01, 14 November 2018 (UTC)
- Nyttend it should be noted that 'admin only'-links are not guaranteed to be admin-only. Alternate views, apps, things like wikiwand, screenreader, pdf print, etc are not guaranteed to know to hide such content. This is why generally we use them sparsely in things like maintenance templates, but not in main content. —TheDJ (talk • contribs) 11:06, 14 November 2018 (UTC)
- So can we add admin-visible-only links from it to the right parts of the Main Page? Having them on a template that's on another page isn't significantly different from having them in the "pages transcluded on this page" section when I click edit. Nyttend (talk) 13:25, 10 November 2018 (UTC)
Content incomplete on mobile?
Is it just me, or does the content of the main page cut off at ITN (i.e. DYK, OTD and anything else below does not display) using a phone's native browser? Is this intentional? I run the latest Firefox on mobile and iOS on iPhone. MER-C 19:33, 17 November 2018 (UTC)
- See Wikipedia:FAQ/Main_Page#Why_do_only_the_"Today's_featured_article"_and_"In_the_news"_sections_show_up_when_viewing_the_Main_Page_on_a_mobile_device?. It is apparently due to load times. There is a link at the bottom of the mobile version to switch to "desktop" which is the normal view (though not optimised for mobiles) - Dumelow (talk) 19:47, 17 November 2018 (UTC)
Wrong date at the Picture of ARA San Juan
The picture of ARA San Juan says it was taken in 2017 but it was actually took in 2007.--BugWarp (talk) 00:21, 18 November 2018 (UTC)
- The notices at the top of this talk page and the edit window should have told you to report Main Page errors at Wikipedia:Main Page/Errors. Modulus12 (talk) 00:33, 18 November 2018 (UTC)
