Talk:2013–14 Rangers F.C. season
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Players Out
[edit]Should players that have never played for the Rangers first team or sat on the bench for the first team, be included in transfers out of the club? Personally I don't think they should or the list could be endless. I thought I'd ask here before reverting Sparhelda's edit. Thanks, VanguardScot 13:28, 30 May 2013 (UTC)
- If we are being accurate and the players left the club and it can be sourced then yes. If not sourced then no.Blethering Scot 18:05, 30 May 2013 (UTC)
- Okay, no problem. Does this also go as far as 15, 16, 17 year old's that have been released, if source-able? cheers, VanguardScot 18:18, 30 May 2013 (UTC)
- I'm only following previous season articles in regards to that. Sparhelda 23:23, 30 May 2013 (UTC)
- Okay, no problem. Does this also go as far as 15, 16, 17 year old's that have been released, if source-able? cheers, VanguardScot 18:18, 30 May 2013 (UTC)
Consecutive Seasons
[edit]The opening sentence is clearly inaccurate, but I don't know what the accurate number is. Can someone fix it? 280.status.net/douglasawh (talk) 20:19, 1 August 2013 (UTC)
- Having counted out the seasons listed in the navbox Rangers Season which is included in the article i count this as the 134th article. Am i correct and the figure is wrong.Blethering Scot 20:28, 31 August 2013 (UTC)
Excessive stats
[edit]This article is using WP:OR and is not sourced properly. Starting lineup should be removed per consensus already reached on WT:FOOTY and per WP:NOTSTATS many of the sections here should be removed as well -- Discussion about excessive stats on Liverpool F.C. JMHamo (talk) 20:14, 31 August 2013 (UTC)
- I believe the goalscorers table should be removed as the goalscorers are all listed in the main table anyway. I removed it a few times already but the editor added it back in. I didn't realise that WP:FOOTY had decided against using the starting line ups, I will need to go and read up on that. I only included it originally as I seen it elsewhere and thought it was relevant and visually engaging. Cheers, VanguardScot 20:45, 31 August 2013 (UTC)
- I've removed all the stats except the goalscorers as most other season articles have that in. Although you're right in that they're probably not necessary. Stats were mainly unsourced and trivial or not particularly relevant. Cleansheets could potentially be one to have in as it's not anywhere else in the article but it needs to be sourced. Adam4267 (talk) 00:48, 1 September 2013 (UTC)
- We don't need the squad listed twice this is excessive. It should be listed in one stats table detailing whole squad including statistics. This is usual for season articles rather than having one squad section then another listing the squad again plus stats.Blethering Scot 21:45, 1 September 2013 (UTC)
- Hello Blethering [[User talk:Blethering ScotScot]], I was going to ask this at WP:FOOTY but it seems more relevant in this discussion for now (As JMHamo brought the discussion over from there). Should all football club season articles follow Wikipedia:WikiProject Football/Club seasons or is that WP out of date? There, doesn't seem to be much action over there since 2007. If we should be following those guidelines, then this page (along with lots of other season pages) need quite a lot taken out. Cheers, VanguardScot 22:25, 1 September 2013 (UTC)
- I have never seen that before and its not linked in the WP:Footy box. I wasn't aware through the years of there being a club season manual of style only a league season one. I had suggested doing one several times as articles vary so much year on year or club to club and no one as ever mentioned that page. Its certainly out of date and i would think not actually approved. However we def dont need the squad lists twice.Blethering Scot 22:32, 1 September 2013 (UTC)
- I found it at WP:Footy under the Manual of Style sub section. I always get annoyed about these season talk page disputes so went lookibg to see if there was a general set standard that should be followed and that was what I found. It does look out of date though. Something like that definetly needs approved/updated though, would make life much easier. VanguardScot 22:54, 1 September 2013 (UTC)
- Its not listed under the infobox one which is where i usually look. Im not sure that many people know about it as I've asked for one a lot over the last few years in various discussions and not one editor other than yourself has linked to it.. It really needs updated and expanded as there is stuff missing that should be there, and of course people being aware of it. The amount of season articles that are different is scary and just a mess, it really does my head in hence why i apart from two articles this year stopped creating and updating them they aren't worth the hassle..Blethering Scot 22:59, 1 September 2013 (UTC)
- another editor has added a WP:Footy tag to the page, so I have added it into the navigation box and suggested some sensible updates. VanguardScot 12:32, 3 September 2013 (UTC)
- Its not listed under the infobox one which is where i usually look. Im not sure that many people know about it as I've asked for one a lot over the last few years in various discussions and not one editor other than yourself has linked to it.. It really needs updated and expanded as there is stuff missing that should be there, and of course people being aware of it. The amount of season articles that are different is scary and just a mess, it really does my head in hence why i apart from two articles this year stopped creating and updating them they aren't worth the hassle..Blethering Scot 22:59, 1 September 2013 (UTC)
- I found it at WP:Footy under the Manual of Style sub section. I always get annoyed about these season talk page disputes so went lookibg to see if there was a general set standard that should be followed and that was what I found. It does look out of date though. Something like that definetly needs approved/updated though, would make life much easier. VanguardScot 22:54, 1 September 2013 (UTC)
- I have never seen that before and its not linked in the WP:Footy box. I wasn't aware through the years of there being a club season manual of style only a league season one. I had suggested doing one several times as articles vary so much year on year or club to club and no one as ever mentioned that page. Its certainly out of date and i would think not actually approved. However we def dont need the squad lists twice.Blethering Scot 22:32, 1 September 2013 (UTC)
- Hello Blethering [[User talk:Blethering ScotScot]], I was going to ask this at WP:FOOTY but it seems more relevant in this discussion for now (As JMHamo brought the discussion over from there). Should all football club season articles follow Wikipedia:WikiProject Football/Club seasons or is that WP out of date? There, doesn't seem to be much action over there since 2007. If we should be following those guidelines, then this page (along with lots of other season pages) need quite a lot taken out. Cheers, VanguardScot 22:25, 1 September 2013 (UTC)
- We don't need the squad listed twice this is excessive. It should be listed in one stats table detailing whole squad including statistics. This is usual for season articles rather than having one squad section then another listing the squad again plus stats.Blethering Scot 21:45, 1 September 2013 (UTC)
- I've removed all the stats except the goalscorers as most other season articles have that in. Although you're right in that they're probably not necessary. Stats were mainly unsourced and trivial or not particularly relevant. Cleansheets could potentially be one to have in as it's not anywhere else in the article but it needs to be sourced. Adam4267 (talk) 00:48, 1 September 2013 (UTC)
Interviews
[edit]I've removed these interviews as they're not really necessary at all in the article. Also removed some of the stats tables as has been talked about above. Adam4267 (talk) 00:43, 1 September 2013 (UTC)