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Reviewer: SSSB (talk · contribs) 11:04, 23 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I don't follow ralling, but am active in WP:WikiProject Formula One, so I'll take this on. I'll probably work on this by doing a little bit every day. Good luck! SSSB (talk) 11:08, 23 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Image captions[edit]

  • Caption for manufacturers' champions in the lead needs to be past tense: "Toyota Gazoo Racing WRT (GR Yaris Rally1 pictured) are were the manufacturers' champions." as the season is over. SSSB (talk) 11:34, 23 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
 Done.
  • The map caption should read as "A map showing the locations of the rallies in of the 2022 championship." Events aren't in the championship, but are part of it.11:34, 23 April 2023 (UTC)
 Done.
  • The Loeb caption in the driver changes section needs to changed to past tense: "Nine-time world champion Sébastien Loeb returns returned to the World Rally Championship with M-Sport. SSSB (talk) 11:34, 23 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
 Done.
  • "while his former co-driver Julien Ingrassia (right) retired from competition." - for someone who reads only the captions it is not clear when retired. Add something like: "... following the 2021 season."?11:34, 23 April 2023 (UTC)
 Done.
  • Not necessary for promotion, but a picture in the opening rounds section would be nice. SSSB (talk) 11:34, 23 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I'd love to, just struggling to find an available image from Commons. Unnamelessness (talk) 14:12, 24 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Calendar[edit]

  • I've boldly corrected a typo. "Acrossing" changed to "across". SSSB (talk) 20:08, 25 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • This is a device specific issue (and not a GA requirement) but my screen is probably average for a laptop and what happeneing is that I have the infobox, Rovanperä's image (that goes to the end of the lead) Toyota's image, and then the map. The width of the table means that it can't appear on the page until after all this, resulting in a huge white space. I'm just spitballing here, and feel free to ignore me, but this would be fixed (or improved if your screen is narrower than mine) if the map is moved to after the table? SSSB (talk) 20:08, 25 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I was thinking of a large centered map in a standalone section, something like 2023 MotoGP World Championship#Grand Prix locations, but there were other voices, so this propsoal was rejected. Then the map was after the table, but that squeezed the text too much. Ultimatly came the current layout.
  • "The headquarters of the Monte Carlo Rally moved from Gap, Hautes-Alpes to Monaco alone. The rally was previously based solely in Monaco in 2006." - I thought this meant that all the stages were held with Monaco, before I saw the stage names, instead of "based", "headquartered" would be better - for clarity. SSSB (talk) 20:08, 25 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
 Done.
  • Niether distances in the Rally Sweden bullet point are covered in sources, only the distance. This should be rectified. SSSB (talk) 20:08, 25 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
 Done.
  • Writting the changes in this section in bullet points is unnecessary. Having one sentence follow each other reads and looks better (I think).
 Done. Unnamelessness (talk) 07:40, 26 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I meant it can be put into one paragrapgh. Probably two for the Calendar changes section. SSSB (talk) 21:22, 28 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
 Done.
  • The Rally New Zealand wording is odd. A country doesn't "secure" a spot, becuase it is not the country that bids for the event. Either something like "the rally had secured..." or "...the rally had been due to return to New Zealand in 2020..." or "..New Zealand had been due to host a round in 2020...". "...but their bid to return to championship was taken down in response..." implies that the bid was unsuccessful. It was successful, but it was cancelled for reasons beyond anyones control. So to say the bid was taken down is misleading. The event hadn't started, so it doesn't make sense to describe it as unsuccessful, but "the event was cancelled/not held..." would work. SSSB (talk) 21:22, 28 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
 Done.
  • The Rally Japan sentence isn't sourced. The source only verifies that Rally Japan was originally scheduled as the final round in 2020. The fact that it was scheduled last is an minor detail. It also reads funny and is a little unclear. I have no objections to its inclusion, but its delivery needs to be tidied up. Maybe, "Rally Japan took the final spot in the original calendar. It was scheduled as the final round in 2020 and 2021, before being called off due to the COVID-19 pandemic."?21:22, 28 April 2023 (UTC)
 Done. Unnamelessness (talk) 01:42, 29 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Entrants[edit]

  • Katsuta is in here twice. I get that this is because he is eligable for points and a privateer entry, but the way this is laid out at the moment is confusing. If we have three tables I suggest the first table is "manufacture entries", then have a table for privateer entries eligable for points and then a "privateers eligable for points", then "privateers not eligable for points. Otherwise, we should have a table for those eligable for points, and one without and then you can distinguish the one privateer entry, either by an asterisk. If you elect for three tables, it would also be clearer to have the privateer entries eligable for points in the middle, so all points scoring entries are together. SSSB (talk) 15:15, 30 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
This is a bit complicated here. There were actually four championships in 2022, Drivers', Co-drivers', Manufacturers' and Teams' championships. The first and second tables are for the Manufacturers' championships (eligable and ineligable for points), whereas the third table is for the Teams' championships. Katsuta and Johnston are twice here as they are the only crew to compete both Manufacturers' and Team's championships.
There was also a short discussion at the talk page, which we eventually removed the Team's championship from the page given the inconsistency out there. Unnamelessness (talk) 03:49, 1 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I've had a think about this, and I think the entrant section would benefit with an explanation of the different championships, to better explain why we have several entrants tables with overlap between them. SSSB (talk) 09:08, 21 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Or should be just straight remove the third table, which is in line with other seasons? Unnamelessness (talk) 07:11, 25 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I guess that would work too. SSSB (talk) 11:54, 27 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
 Done. Unnamelessness (talk) 02:11, 28 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • "M-Sport entered the championship with a new car based on the Ford Puma crossover, named Ford Puma Rally1." the constructor/manufatorer is Ford here, not M-Sport? M-Sport is the team? SSSB (talk) 15:15, 30 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
When we say "M-Sport", we refer to the M-Sport Ford WRT. They are sort of like a 0.5 manufactuer, a bit of like the BMW Sauber in F1. They use Ford vehicle to compete with, so the constructor/manufatorer is Ford; they enter events under "M-Sport Ford WRT", so the team is M-Sport. Unnamelessness (talk) 03:49, 1 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • The source confirms that the engines are unchanged, but not that they are Inline 4-cylinder, 1.6 litre, direct injection turbo engines. SSSB (talk) 15:15, 30 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Added one source. Unnamelessness (talk) 03:49, 1 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Driver changes[edit]

  • "Extra cars also entered at the selected events," - this makes is sound like "selected events" are a collection of pre-determined events are given a special status. You need to get rid of the "the". SSSB (talk) 11:37, 6 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
 Done.
  • "Solberg's program came to a halt after the 2022 Rally New Zealand due to a series of inconsistent performance." - perfomance should be plural perfomances. SSSB (talk) 11:37, 6 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
 Done.
  • "... with Landais replaced Veillas in Japan." this should be "replacing". SSSB (talk) 11:37, 6 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
 Done. Unnamelessness (talk) 02:16, 7 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Sporting regulations[edit]

  • The final two paragraphs can and should be merged into one. SSSB (talk) 12:10, 21 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
 Done.

Opening rounds[edit]

  • This opening sentence "New season, new rules, new cars, as the FIA World Rally Championship entered the Groups Rally era at Monte-Carlo." reads to much like a jounralist by-line than an encylopedic article. It has already been established that the season has new rules and cars. So "The new season started at Monte-Carlo", while less interesting is significantly more encylopedic. SSSB (talk) 12:10, 21 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
 Done.
  • It was not until the final stage of Saturday, when Ogier and Benjamin Veillas had a stunning run with slick tyres through the icy stage, that the time difference began to open up with Loeb and Isabelle Galmiche trailing by over twenty seconds. - stunning here is an unsourced opinion. It either needs to be referenced and place in quote marks or removed. SSSB (talk) 12:10, 21 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
 Done. Unnamelessness (talk) 07:27, 23 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • "Hyundai's 2022 campaign seemed in deep trouble," reads too sensationalist and opinionist. Simple fix would be to quote trouble and ditch the deep? SSSB (talk) 18:52, 30 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Removed "deep". "Trouble" is cited per the source 91 "Hyundai is in trouble". Unnamelessness (talk) 09:05, 31 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • The trouble-some season campaign of Adrien Fourmaux and Alexandre Coria is yet to start as they retired for the third rally in a row... this part of the sentence is not sourced. SSSB (talk) 18:52, 30 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Added one reference. Unnamelessness (talk) 09:05, 31 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Mid-season gravel events[edit]

  • Heading into the gravel seasons, championship leaders Rovanperä and Halttunen would become the road opener,... - them being road openers is not covered in the sources. Unless this is a consequence of them being Championhsip leaders. In which case a reword should be considered to make this clearer for those unfamiliar with rally regs. "Heading into the gravel seasons, Rovanperä and Halttunen became road opener as the championship leader,..." would word, for example. SSSB (talk) 19:20, 31 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
 Done.
  • he victory also saw the Finnish crew increase their championship leads to a commanding advantage of forty-six points. - the citation for this sentence is from 2021 Rally Portugal, not 2022. SSSB (talk) 19:20, 31 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Fixed. Unnamelessness (talk) 12:18, 1 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Closing rounds[edit]

  • with Neuville and Wydaeghe took the victory. - should be "taking" not "took". SSSB (talk) 19:51, 7 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
 Done.
  • which was enough for the Finn to secure their first world titles. - Finns should be plural. SSSB (talk) 19:51, 7 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
 Done.
  • By definition a controversy requires some disagreement or arguement. I don't see the source of argument surronding the civilian car. Everyone agrees it shouldn't happen and there is no evidence of cutting corners, so I'm not convinced it qualifies as controversial. SSSB (talk) 19:51, 7 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Removed the sentence. Unnamelessness (talk) 11:54, 8 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Comments[edit]

I've gone throught the article, when all the above is fixed, I will be happy to pass. SSSB (talk) 19:52, 7 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

SSSB, think I've addressed these concerns. Feel free to have a second read through. Unnamelessness (talk) 11:55, 8 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@Unnamelessness: I'm happy to pass this, congratulations! SSSB (talk) 15:00, 10 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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