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Reviewer: Tayi Arajakate (talk · contribs) 01:16, 25 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Comments

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  • Regarding ref 2, if I'm not missing something, it just calls describes her father as "Mr. Baker of Pastoral Hotel" which doesn't quite make it clear that the hotel was purchased by him or that he was the manager or even that the family moved to Wagga Wagga.
  • "At the age of 15 she started giving music classes ..." In the sentence, the use of "giving" sounds odd, I would suggest using "offering" instead.
  • The pound symbol doesn't need to be wikilinked.
  • "She raised £50 for Wagga hospital and £24/15/6 to the Lord Mayor of Sydney for survivors of the shipwreck of the Ly-ee-moon off the Green Cape Lighthouse. This line should specify the year 1886 and come after the next sentence to be chronological, otherwise it sounds like she did it at 15.
  • Ref 5 could be used to expand the article a bit more, it states that she began her musical career at age 12 which isn't mentioned article and that she raised the money for the hospital donation through a concert, it also appears that the donations for the survivors and the one towards the hospital were the same one from it. Ref 3 is an advertisement so I wouldn't place as much weight on it.
    • the ref you mention is a public notice, I suspect required through law at the time, so it’s quite reliable. I have added the information you point out, I think that is quite valuable information! Inspired by this, I located the “Well done, Ada!” article it mentions and cited that. - Aussie Article Writer (talk) 02:42, 1 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • "According to Baker, Hall had married her reluctantly – she had directed her brother to "break his head" if he did not." There is a slight inaccurate in this, it should state that she had told Hall that her brother would "break his head", she doesn't say that she directed her brother do so. I think the line should also specify the context that this was stated in her divorce petition. The line also probably belongs in the paragraph on her divorce.
  • "... Maharajah's elephant." Maharajah is an archaic spelling, just Maharaja should be enough.
  • "In the era of at-fault divorce – Australian enacted no fault-divorce in 1975 – if neither party could prove fault in the marriage by the other, then it would not be granted." This line is not cited. The article should also specify the custody of their children.
  • "During July and August of 1898 Rickards' Tivoli company, including Baker, played in Western Australia." Regarding this line, I would suggest using "toured" or "performed" instead of "played".
  • Hall, her estranged husband, had been living in Western Australia by that time. Despite Baker not arriving in Perth with him nor living with him, the Truth reported that "there seemed no regret for 'the man she had left behind her.'" This sentence isn't quite clear as to what it means, I would suggest rephrasing.
    • I respectfully disagree. The paper implied she had deserted Hall, despite the fact Hall left her for Perth. A few people have read this, and it’s fairly clear what it alludes to. I don't want to state their intent, because that might be considered OR. - Aussie Article Writer (talk) 03:01, 1 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
      I've read it again and I suppose it does make sense. Though, I would make one suggestion of placing it in the next section since Hall's whereabouts are not specified in the article and the sentence's placement in the section on her move to Western Australia can give the impression that she had deserted him for Perth. Tayi Arajakate Talk 09:35, 1 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • "Baker's enthusiasm when raising funds for the Rachel Forster Hospital for Women and Children had her made a life governor in 1927." I would suggest adding "at the hospital" after "governor" in the sentence.
  • "... and in 1932 she raised a further £140 for that hospital." "The hospital" instead of "that hospital".
  • "Ada Baker Street in Forde, Australian Capital Territory is named in her honour." The year could be specified and I would suggest not keeping this line a separate paragraph.
  • In general, the article is almost entirely sourced from dated contemporary news pieces, which are somewhat primary sources (She has an entry in the Australian Dictionary of Biography so notability isn't a concern). I understand that they might be the more abundant sources available for the subject but I would still suggest incorporating more modern secondary sources if possible.

Assessment

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  1. Comprehension: The comprehension is good.
  2. Pass Pass
    Criteria Notes Result
    (a) (prose) The prose is clear and concise. Pass Pass
    (b) (MoS) The article is compliant with the manual of style. Pass Pass
  3. Verifiability: The article is verifiable.
  4. Pass Pass
    Criteria Notes Result
    (a) (references) The article has a list of references and in-line citation in the body. Pass Pass
    (b) (citations to reliable sources) Sources used appear to be largely reliable. Pass Pass
    (c) (original research) No original research present. Pass Pass
    (d) (copyvio and plagiarism) No copyright violation or plagiarism found. Pass Pass
  5. Comprehensiveness: The article is comprehensive enough.
  6. Pass Pass
    Criteria Notes Result
    (a) (major aspects) The article broadly covers all major aspects of the subject. Pass Pass
    (b) (focused) The article remains on topic without unnecessary deviations. Pass Pass
  7. Neutrality: The article is neutral.
  8. Pass Pass
    Notes Result
    The article is compliant with the policy on neutral point of view. Pass Pass
  9. Stability: The article is stable.
  10. Pass Pass
    Notes Result
    No ongoing edit warring or content disputes are present. Pass Pass
  11. Illustration: The article is well illustrated.
  12. Pass Pass
    Criteria Notes Result
    (a) (images are tagged and non-free images have fair use rationales) No copyright issues found. Pass Pass
    (b) (appropriate use with suitable captions) Use and caption are good. Pass Pass