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Reviewer: IHelpWhenICan (talk) 04:15, 28 March 2011 (UTC)
Skinny, skinny, skinny. Two inches from stub, but it is sourced well, so lets see...
- It is reasonably well written.
- a (prose): b (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists):
- In contemporary music articles, if a song/album charts, you expect to see a "Charts" section. Look at other singles articles to get an idea. You can use a regular table, or you can use Template:Singlechart.
- The song only charted once, so it's not necessary to add it up. Examples: I've Just Begun (Having My Fun), My Only Wish (This Year), Unusual You. - Sauloviegas (talk) 21:02, 29 March 2011 (UTC)
- Proved me wrong, pass. I Help, When I Can. [12] 00:19, 31 March 2011 (UTC)
- The song only charted once, so it's not necessary to add it up. Examples: I've Just Begun (Having My Fun), My Only Wish (This Year), Unusual You. - Sauloviegas (talk) 21:02, 29 March 2011 (UTC)
- In contemporary music articles, if a song/album charts, you expect to see a "Charts" section. Look at other singles articles to get an idea. You can use a regular table, or you can use Template:Singlechart.
- a (prose): b (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists):
- It is factually accurate and verifiable.
- a (references): b (citations to reliable sources): c (OR):
- The release note citations are questionable. It would be nice to have a source that is easily viewable. Your source for the chart peak has a different date than the one stated on the article (source says March 25, 2006). Fix it.
- I have the CD. But I'll look for another source. And the chart peak date is Done - Sauloviegas (talk) 21:02, 29 March 2011 (UTC)
- Pass. Even if it would be nice, at the end of the day, it is sourced with catalog number. I Help, When I Can. [12] 00:19, 31 March 2011 (UTC)
- I have the CD. But I'll look for another source. And the chart peak date is Done - Sauloviegas (talk) 21:02, 29 March 2011 (UTC)
- The release note citations are questionable. It would be nice to have a source that is easily viewable. Your source for the chart peak has a different date than the one stated on the article (source says March 25, 2006). Fix it.
- a (references): b (citations to reliable sources): c (OR):
- It is broad in its coverage.
- a (major aspects): b (focused):
- The first paragraph in the "Background" section focuses a little too much on the remix album, and not the song itself. I would like to see more opinions taken into account in the "Reception" section.
- It's not actually. It seems to focuse more on the remix album because were talking about how the song was released, along with the album. - Sauloviegas (talk) 21:02, 29 March 2011 (UTC)
- "On September 28, 2005, Jive Records announced through a press release that Spears would release a remix album titled Remixed. However, on November 8, 2005, it was reported by Jennifer Vineyard of MTV that the album was actually titled B in the Mix: The Remixes, and was going to be released on November 22, 2005." Explain to me how these two sentances relate to the song. I Help, When I Can. [12] 00:19, 31 March 2011 (UTC)
- Removed. - Sauloviegas (talk) 20:52, 1 April 2011 (UTC)
- "On September 28, 2005, Jive Records announced through a press release that Spears would release a remix album titled Remixed. However, on November 8, 2005, it was reported by Jennifer Vineyard of MTV that the album was actually titled B in the Mix: The Remixes, and was going to be released on November 22, 2005." Explain to me how these two sentances relate to the song. I Help, When I Can. [12] 00:19, 31 March 2011 (UTC)
- It's not actually. It seems to focuse more on the remix album because were talking about how the song was released, along with the album. - Sauloviegas (talk) 21:02, 29 March 2011 (UTC)
- The new first two sentences could fit into the "Composition" section. Try to make something appealing and informative in the "Background". Something about the history of it's creation, not just the facts on who did this/who did that. I feel like an asshole, but I gotta critique you on that. I Help, When I Can. [12] 23:08, 1 April 2011 (UTC)
- No problem, I'll do it. :) - 187.48.168.219 (talk) 02:40, 2 April 2011 (UTC
- You (187.48.168.219) don't have to, actually. These facts are featured on several GAs, such as Anticipating, Born to Make You Happy and Don't Let Me Be the Last to Know. But I know what you mean, and the article will be better if I add more info. - Sauloviegas (talk) 02:44, 2 April 2011 (UTC)
- Hey, I've searched google up and down, and didn't find any more info about the song. I know that it would be much better if the producer (Mark Taylor) had given some interview about the song or even Britney herself talked about it, but there is nothing... Sorry... - Sauloviegas (talk) 21:46, 2 April 2011 (UTC)
- Ok. Despite the article not having the "beef", it has the taste. Pass.
- Hey, I've searched google up and down, and didn't find any more info about the song. I know that it would be much better if the producer (Mark Taylor) had given some interview about the song or even Britney herself talked about it, but there is nothing... Sorry... - Sauloviegas (talk) 21:46, 2 April 2011 (UTC)
- The first paragraph in the "Background" section focuses a little too much on the remix album, and not the song itself. I would like to see more opinions taken into account in the "Reception" section.
- a (major aspects): b (focused):
- It follows the neutral point of view policy.
- Fair representation without bias:
- No issues reguarding that.
- Fair representation without bias:
- It is stable.
- No edit wars, etc.:
- People have constantly removed the article, citing WP:NSONGS. Last attempt was a little less than a month ago.
- What can I do to change that? - Sauloviegas (talk) 21:02, 29 March 2011 (UTC)
- The last time was March 9, 2011... I'll look at it "half-full" and assume the best. I Help, When I Can. [12] 00:19, 31 March 2011 (UTC)
- What can I do to change that? - Sauloviegas (talk) 21:02, 29 March 2011 (UTC)
- People have constantly removed the article, citing WP:NSONGS. Last attempt was a little less than a month ago.
- No edit wars, etc.:
- It is illustrated by images, where possible and appropriate.
- a (images are tagged and non-free images have fair use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):
- There are no images in the article besides the cover. On the other hand, the article is rather small and images could shift it around weirdly.
- How does that image in the "Reception" section have to do with anything? I Help, When I Can. [12] 02:20, 1 April 2011 (UTC)
- It doesn't, actually. Removed. Sorry. - Sauloviegas (talk) 20:52, 1 April 2011 (UTC)
- How does that image in the "Reception" section have to do with anything? I Help, When I Can. [12] 02:20, 1 April 2011 (UTC)
- There are no images in the article besides the cover. On the other hand, the article is rather small and images could shift it around weirdly.
- a (images are tagged and non-free images have fair use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):
- Overall:
- Pass/Fail:
I would see if I could find any more information on the article (just sayin'). Besides how skinny it is, fix these factors and I will re-evaluate. It is now officially on hold.It does not have quantity, but it has quality, a more important aspect.
- Pass/Fail: