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Reviewer: BennyOnTheLoose (talk · contribs) 13:16, 13 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]


GA review
(see here for what the criteria are, and here for what they are not)
  1. It is reasonably well written.
    a (prose, spelling, and grammar):
    b (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists):
  2. It is factually accurate and verifiable.
    a (references):
    b (citations to reliable sources):
    c (OR):
    d (copyvio and plagiarism):
  3. It is broad in its coverage.
    a (major aspects):
    b (focused):
  4. It follows the neutral point of view policy.
    Fair representation without bias:
  5. It is stable.
    No edit wars, etc.:
  6. It is illustrated by images, where possible and appropriate.
    a (images are tagged and non-free images have fair use rationales):
    b (appropriate use with suitable captions):

Overall:
Pass/Fail:

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Happy to be challenged on any of my review comments. Regards, BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 13:16, 13 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

  • Copyvio check: I looked at results on Earwig's Copyvio detector, ignoring junk pages that copy Wikipedia content. No concerns.
  • Images: All have CC licenses. Captions and placement are fine. The image of Cramling's mother seems to be slightly wider than the one of her father; looks like it could be cropped to match.

Sources

  • Ref. 1 (Twitch) looks incomplete. Quite an amusing source! I think this OK per WP:BLPSELFPUB.
  • Ref. 4 (Cramling's site FAQ) - a more marginal call regarding WP:BLPSELFPUB, but I think it's OK. (IMO, most secondary sources tend to rely on interviews or other info directly relayed by the subject when you look into them a bit further, anyway.)
  • Ref. 36 (YouTube) looks incomplete.
  • Optionally, you could run IABot to archive sources.
  • Not a huge range of sources have been used for the article, but my quick search (and a peek at [Swedish Wikipedia article]) didn't find any obvious omissions, which suggests that the range is appropriate for a GA.

Infobox and lead

Early life and background

  • "on 30 April 2002" and "to Pia Cramling and Juan Manuel Bellón López" not verified by the stated source.
    • Duplicated the next source
  • "Her mother became the fifth woman to achieve the GM title in 1992..." - reads to me as though 5th in 1992, not 5th ever.
  • "previously was No. 1 in the world among women by FIDE rating in 1984" - OK where it is, but consider moving this to before the 1992 achievement.
  • "Her father later made the same federation switch in 2017" - optionally, either remove "later" or amend to something like "In 2017, her father made the same federation switch."

Chess career

  • "at age 10, starting out at 1513 after playing the Amateur A competition at the Gibraltar Chess Festival." - mostly unverified by cited source.
  • Wasn't it 1519 rather than 1513 (from the chart at ratings.fide.com)?
  • "Cramling had a large increase in rating in early 2015 at age 12 when she gained over 300 rating points across four tournaments in two months to surpass a rating of 1900." doesn't seem to be verifed by the sources after the following sentence.
  • "made a draw" and "her seed of 30th" - if this are in chess terminology or standard in varieties of English then keep the phrasing, but they seem unusual wordings to me in the UK.
  • "Her best tournament of the year was the European Youth Championships" - not verified by the stated source.
    • Added the FIDE rating progress source again. Really, you have to look at all of the tournament records month-by-month for all of 2019. If you do that, you'll see the only other full-length tournament she gained a significant amount of rating (or had a good performance) was the Rilton Cup in the February rating period. If you compare that tournament to the European Youth Championships, you'll see that she that from standard ways to assess performance, she gained significantly more rating at the latter (+103 vs. +58), had a better score (5.5/9 vs. 3/9), her best victory was against a higher-rated opponent (2307 vs. 2239), and she had a better performance rating by a wide margin (2355 vs. 2110). Sportsfan77777 (talk) 15:46, 14 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Team competitions

  • First four sentences don't seem to be verified by the stated sources.
  • I don't know whether "She played on the third board in 2019 behind her mother and Ellinor Frisk, and was again on the reserve board in 2021" is verified by the stated sources as I'm not entirely sure how to interpret them.
    • If you search "Cramling" on the pages for the 2019 and 2021 sources, it will tell you the team composition. (It's pretty far down the page because they didn't come close to winning.) Sportsfan77777 (talk) 15:46, 14 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Playing style

  • I know very little about chess, and nothing about the Queen's Pawn Game. I'm not sure if there's any more that could be added on this in the article - looking at Queen's Pawn Game I dont really see whether this is regarded as agressive or defensive, only that it's the second-most popular opening move. I'm also not sure if there's anything worth adding about her windraw/loss statistics using this - seems she loses more games than she wins using the opening. (Stats are on the chessgames.com source)
    • First moves alone aren't aggressive or defensive. It's just a different style. I didn't include more detailed openings (i.e. sets of 3 to 10 moves instead of just one) because it's harder to find that information. W–L isn't useful because it's very dependent on whether she gets to face higher or lower-rated opponents more often. (Also, chessgames isn't comprehensive. It's just a selection of games.) It is implied that she is very likely better at this opening than others because she only plays this opening and for the most part she doesn't play any others. Sportsfan77777 (talk) 15:46, 14 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • I wasn't too sure about "(laughs)" which is italics in the source. MOS:QUOTE says "Generally preserve bold and italics".
  • The quote is a high proportion of this section. Perhaps you could take some of it into general text.
    • I summarized the quote as "Cramling believes she combines her mother's opening style with her father's aggressive style". She basically says the same thing with a few small details added, and it ends up a lot longer than how it is summarized because she repeats the two key points (mother's openings, father's aggressive style) a few times each in the quote. At the same time though, each repetition is a little different, and it seems awkward to try to cut out small parts of it. Sportsfan77777 (talk) 15:46, 14 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Streaming career

Thanks for your work on the article, Sportsfan77777. I made a few minor changes which I think are uncontroversial, but happy to discuss. Comments and questions above. Regards, BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 14:53, 13 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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