Talk:Bagatelles, Op. 33 (Beethoven)

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Completed in 1802 but

begun when? One or two biographical sources have 1782 (for most, not all, of op.33) with revision more than completion taking place in 1802-odd... Schissel | Sound the Note! 21:21, 4 June 2016 (UTC) Schissel | Sound the Note! 21:21, 4 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

In fact, the autograph (@ IMSLP) has "1782" at the top right of the first page. This would seem to establish that the first version of the Op.33 probably dates from around that time (or was claimed to have done by the author of that line- Beethoven in slightly later years, or his father??... he believed, on the basis of a mistaken birth certificate, that he was born in 1772 iirc so he would have thought this a work of his very pre-teen years...) Schissel | Sound the Note! 19:25, 6 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]