Talk:Baton (military)

paradeleader baton versus military versus official symbol

1. It's not clear to me how the parade-leader's baton differs from an admiral's.

2. Other than the Indio example, it seems like everything here is military, would be nice to clean it up to just be military symbol.

TCO (talk) 19:36, 29 November 2010 (UTC)

really we need an overal baton page

That would allow us to use the etymology section for all the sticklike batons (because it applies to all) and also allow us to discuss the military batons separately from other official uses (parade leaders, Bolivian Indians). TCO (talk) 19:38, 29 November 2010 (UTC)

language stiff

Some of the language on this page seemed stiff and perhaps copied from some un-noted source. This is changing anyhow as I rewrite the article. TCO (talk) 20:31, 29 November 2010 (UTC)

done for now, structuring and copy editing article

I put a structure into the article, clipped a lot of wordiness, and did other textual edits. TCO (talk) 00:41, 30 November 2010 (UTC)

need refs

Article really needs references and am dropping a note at mil history for help.  Especially for all the third reich stuff which is the bulk of the article.  Google search and google scholar were not helpful.  Maybe I am not limiting the field's properly, but just come up with instances of field marshals carrying them, but not of the details of their apperance.

Batons

I have added a {{dubious}} tag to the claim that Wellington received 12 batons. In addition I have cited 3 sources. A paper in 1852 lists 8 batons in detail. English Heritage currently have 10 on display, photo included. One was stolen in 1965 (10+1=11). There is nothing I can find online to identify 12 - I spoke to a bloke at English Heritage Apsley House on phone today. He confirmed they have 10 - 3 of which are English, he also told me about the robbery in the 1960s - I traced that to 9 Dec 1965. If anyone has a better source regarding the 12 claim I am very interested - but just disputing this 12 claim for hell of it, I require a solid source also, if possible, for other articles. Ma®©usBritish (talk) 21:04, 8 June 2011 (UTC)

It sounds like we could rewrite it to say "at least 11 batons". I'll make that edit and anyone can undo and discuss if they object.   Will Beback  talk  23:45, 28 November 2011 (UTC)

Serfeit of capitals?

Does this sentance really need this many capital letters?

The Origin of the Command Baton is remote but common to all pastoral societies and the ones in Egypt and Rome are manifest through Art. In western Europe most are later variations of the ones Consuls received and that represented the over all command of those tied to the Fasces that represented the Roman tribes that composed the Roman People. With time they came to be extended to the commanders that held the supreme authority, civilian and military over the provinces of the Republic, and later under the Dictatorships and finally the Emperor.

Wardog (talk) 00:23, 13 August 2011 (UTC)

No. Copy-edited to remove unnecessary capitalisation. Ma®©usBritish ^[talk] 13:54, 13 August 2011 (UTC)

Value of Hermann Göring's baton

22,750 Marks were 9,100 USD in 1940 according to Lawrence H. Officer, "Exchange Rates Between the United States Dollar and Forty-one Currencies,", MeasuringWorth, 2013 URL: http://www.measuringworth.com/exchangeglobal/

Based on CPI Inflation 9100 USD from 1940 are worth 152.000 USD in todays money. http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=9100+%281940%29+usd+today — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.228.5.65 (talk) 23:22, 17 February 2013 (UTC)

Bayerish Marshallstab

Hello,

In order to drawn coats of arms of Carl Philipp von Wrede (as here), I need to know how looks the Marschallstaff from the kingdom of Bayern. I've find few files about it, but it's not enough :

• 
  Karl Theodor von der Pfalz in kurfürstlichem Ornat und mit Marschallsstab
• 
  Statue to Karl Wrede, Feldherrnhalle, Munich
• 
  We can see the staff under the hat. It looks lozengy

I've find also : [1] and [2].

Can anyone help me ? Thanks a lot. --Jimmy44 (talk) 09:40, 13 July 2015 (UTC)

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"Staff 1965"

No further details are given.--Johnsoniensis (talk) 21:36, 14 January 2021 (UTC)