Talk:Battle of Câmpia Pâinii

redirect or not

I don't see why this article must be redirected to Bathory page? It is a stub yet or what? In this case we can copy the battle description from Bathory's article here ... --fz22 12:15, 4 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

It doesn't have to be redirected to the Bathory page, but in my opinion, you don't choose a poor stub over a somehow decent article where the battle is decently described and sourced. That's the first thing. The second thing is that you can't use the Romanian name, for two reasons: one, because this is the English Wiki; and two, because that battle wasn't even a Romanian conflict--altough Romanian troops were recruited, thus it makes the usage of the name even less justifiable. The Hungarian name for the location of the battle (Battle of Kenyérmező), would be more justified than using the Romanian name, but still not justified enough to use it over the English name, which is Battle of Field of Bread. So if you wish, you could paste the text over there, which presently redirects to the Bathory article. In my opinion, you don't have to create two different articles covering the same event, when one article is enough. --Thus Spake Anittas 17:12, 4 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Sure, however the description of the battle fits better here then in one of its commander's biography page. Regarding the naming question I don't think we can simply translate Kenyermezo/Campia Painii in English just because it is easy to do so, why don't we proceed in the same way for the Battle of Belgrad/Nandorfehervar (White Castle of the Nandor's :) . According to wikipedia rules the original/contemporary name, or the present-day name must be used here. regards --fz22 19:19, 4 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Well, sometimes the names are translated; this mostly happens to locations rather than the name of a city or town. If you look at the article on Battle of Kosovo, you will see that different names apply for different languages. See the Romanian and the Swedish name. Anyway, my strongest argument here is that it was not me who translated the name into English. It was Franz Babinger. The name for the location was already translated (Field of Bread) and I found it in one of the books which I've used as a source for the Bathory article, namely Mehmed the Conqueror and his time p. 374. I only put Battle of- in front of the translated name. --Thus Spake Anittas 19:37, 4 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]