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References Review(provided Till 9th August 2023)

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Here is the review of all sources which are provided till 9th August 2023

1 ) - Rohit Pralhadrao Kale, Rajwata, Aavishkar Gad Killayacha :- author is not a historian neither provided bibliography - Not an Acceptable Source.

2 ) - Gazetteer of the Bombay Presidency: Poona (2 pts.)p. 226-7 :- "Primary" Source- Not Acceptable (if this is translation of that even then it wouldn't be acceptable)

3 ) - Milind Gunaji, Offbeat Tracks in Maharashtra, p. 70 :- Again author is not a historian neither provided bibliography - Not an Acceptable Source

4 ) - List of battles fought by Chhatrapati Shivaji Maharaj.Jagranjosh.com. 2022-02-18.  :- Website,didn't even have information about this battle & Source of this website is Wikipedia itself - Not an Acceptable Source

5 ) - Chhattapati Shivaji Maharaj.Drishti IAS. Retrieved 2023-08-08. :- Again Website, didn't have information about this battle, Source is Wikipedia itself - Not an Acceptable Source

6 ) - Maharashtra government to host five-day event at Shivneri Fort in February.The Indian Express. 2023-01-28. Retrieved 2023-08-08. :- Website, didn't have information about this battle. - Not an Acceptable Source

7 ) - Shivneri Fort - The Glorious Birthplace Of Shivaji Maharaj.2022-02-06. Retrieved 2023-08-08. :- Website, didn't have information about this battle - Not an Acceptable Source'

8 ) - Jadunath Sarkar, Shivaji And His Times, p. 226-7 :- Although out of all the above sources only this is work of a historian but it's Pretty Dated that's why cannot acceptable & I had already told this to the creater of this article - Not an Acceptable Source See what one of Wikipedia administrators told about source of Jadunath Sarkar,https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:MobileDiff/1163841364.

So out of all the above none of the sources matches the essensiality of WP:RS. If any source (in future) found then take that here,but first let it on talk page & have to be reviewed. Thank you Aryan330 (talk) 10:14, 9 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

How in the world did you decide that my sources were not reliable?
You still haven't explained what a dated source.
You still haven't explained why is Jadnuath Sarkar sources are dated.
You still haven't summarized the points in the talk page, which I asked you to do.
All you did was refer to a talk page that didn't provide enough reasoning.
Gazetteer of the Bombay Presidency: Poona (2 pts.)p. 226-7 :- "Primary" Source- Not Acceptable (if this is translation of that even then it wouldn't be acceptable) they're allowed to be here as long as you have secondary sources to support them
The battle clearly happened.
if we go on like this to decide what's reliable or not, this is not how it's done here. You seem to have an issue with sources. عبدالرحمن4132 (talk) 10:49, 9 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@عبدالرحمن4132 You are saying that primary sources have to here as till secondary sources had but there is no secondary source present as provided at this article as I explained above.I suggest you to read the reasons because these are not acceptable again.I have no issues for it but Wikipedia has.
I have reviewed it on the basis of what senior user did.
Administrator himself told that it's not an acceptable,in this way it seems you are having an issue with objection against your page.
I have invited here one of administrators for personal attention. Aryan330 (talk) 10:54, 9 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
There is; have you even checked the citation that Gazetteer of the Bombay Presidency: Poona (2 pts.)p. 226-7 uses?
And there's not even a consensus about Jadunath Sarkar—only one person you seemed to have taken without asking why—not enough justification. عبدالرحمن4132 (talk) 11:21, 9 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@عبدالرحمن4132 You are simply behaving like WP:NOTGETTINGIT, you are not able to understood the point even after convincing you a couple of time!
Right now you are present at the situation where you aren't aware of Wikipedia:RS. That's why I had suggested you to read the whole comments in talk of battle of Pavankhind'.
Creating an article & adding the sources is not that simple as you are thinking.
I am suggesting you again to read that. Aryan330 (talk) 12:54, 9 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@عبدالرحمن4132 I am not saying that you are completely wrong & don't be in misconception in that I am taking it personally to you or your article,I am just saying this because I had also in same confusion that time but after being aware I got that point

as the sources which provided & not even having information of that battle were not added by you as only 1-2 sources were added by you while other(unnecessary) sources were added by another user,you are just anaware of Wikipedia:RS. & That's why I had told you to read the whole comments of talk page of battle of Pavankhind as I had also same confusion that time & I had wanted to add references to that page but after being aware at last I just not added it.

Read it,you will find your mistake there. After that come here. Aryan330 (talk) 13:07, 9 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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