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Fascism

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Need to note that Roosevelt's National Industrial Recovery Act was adapted from Mussolini's Fascism. Pooua 01:18, 15 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

This reminds me of Obama's new recovery seal. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.110.207.172 (talk) 23:31, 3 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Anyone interested in this subject should read Liberal Fascism by Jonah Goldberg published by doubleday books. There is a reference to the Blue Eagle and other policies of the time. Fascism/socialism was in vogue in the early nineteenth century in Germany, Italy, and the USA. If you fear fasciam it's a must read.--2012truthseeker (talk) 22:59, 4 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
"overtly fascist"? This doesn't sound very NPOV.Peiter (talk) 20:25, 9 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]


Eagles in heraldry, flags, seals, and logos

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The article currently asserts, without citation, that the Blue Eagle is "a blue-colored representation of the American thunderbird". This may be true, but it needs to have a citation, because given the preexisting strong tradition within the United States of eagles in flags, emblems, and logos, which builds on the huge, centuries-long use of eagles and other birds of prey in heraldry, flags, and seals, it seems inevitable that these were also a part of the inspiration. See eagle (heraldry) (especially Eagle (heraldry)#Modern usage) and commons:Flags with animals#Birds of prey for info and examples. I see from the article history that this assertion was first added as part of a content-expansion edit that cited the Dictionary of American History by James Truslow Adams, New York: Charles Scribner's Sons, 1940. Even if the Thunderbird assertion is made in that book (would be nice to confirm, can't preview the book online), I still wouldn't necessarily repeat it in Wikipedia without knowing where Adams himself got it, because, given that (according to this article) sources differ on who designed the emblem, the question is, who was in a position to know, as opposed to assume, that the Thunderbird was the inspiration? Unless either Hugh Samuel Johnson or Charles T. Coiner ever said that's where the inspiration came from, it's not a useful claim, because no one else is in a position to know that the Thunderbird was the inspiration rather than the widespread symbolism mentioned above. I have decided to remove the assertion for now. Anyone who can trace it back to Johnson or Coiner is welcome to re-add it, but short of that level of sourcing, it could only be someone else's assumption. And if it was an assumption, it's a poor one, given the widespread symbolism mentioned above. — ¾-10 20:51, 19 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Move discussion in progress

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