Talk:Bondiola sandwich/Archive 1

Did you know nomination

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The result was: promoted by Dying (talk) 14:37, 18 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Bondiola sandwich with toppings

... that the Bondiola sandwich (pictured) is a popular street food in Argentina? Source: Book Title is: Street food around the world : an encyclopedia of food and culture. The meat consists of a sliced roasted pork shoulder which is served on bread. The sandwich is usually served with lemon juice. It now rivals the Choripán and the Parrilla in popularity. The sandwich is also commonly referred to as a "bondipan"
- ALT1: ... that in Argentina the Bondipan (pictured) rivals the choripán in popularity? Source: Same as above
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Stowe Gardens
- Comment: This article is making me hungry! There are many photos uploaded to common thatb one can choose from. i am also open to other hooks.

Created by Bruxton (talk). Self-nominated at 21:27, 16 February 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Bondiola sandwich; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.[reply]

Article created 16 February. No issues of copyvio or plagiarism. All sources appear reliable. Hooks are interesting and sourced. I like the first hook. QPQ is done. Looks ready to go. Delicious! Thriley (talk) 04:12, 17 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

GA Review

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This review is transcluded from Talk:Bondiola sandwich/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: LunaEatsTuna (talk · contribs) 00:09, 21 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I plan to review this tonight. ツLunaEatsTuna (💬)— 00:09, 21 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

All done! Note this is my first food-related review, so apologies in advance for any obvious errors. On a side note, I am now incredibly hungry… Anyways, I have placed this article on hold for now and left some comments below. Please ping me once you have addressed my concerns, otherwise I may not respond. Thanks, ツLunaEatsTuna (💬)— 01:18, 21 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Nice work! I am now pleased to pass this article for GA status. Congrats! ツLunaEatsTuna (💬)— 17:20, 21 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Copyvio check

Earwig says good to go.

Files

All images used are relevant, of good quality and copyright-free:

File:Bondiola Sandwich with fixings.jpg: CC-BY-SA 2.0;

File:Bondiola.jpg: CC-BY-SA 2.0.

Prose

DoneIn the infobox, capitalise lemon juice.
DoneI would perhaps wikilink sandwich in this context as it seems relevant to the overall article.
Is "History" the right name for the section? I am so used to writing articles in this way but I can change it. Bruxton (talk) 01:39, 21 February 2023 (UTC)
- Well, the text does not appear to actually be related to history. Unfortunately as I am unfamiliar with articles related to cuisine I am not entirely sure what to call it. Any ideas?

I see that Grilled cheese, uses history, Submarine sandwich uses History and etymology, Cheesesteak uses history. Many sandwich articles are stubs so they have no sections.Bruxton (talk) 16:19, 21 February 2023 (UTC)

Oh, I see! My bad then.

DoneShould Choripán and Parrilla be capitalised?
DoneRecommend combining the sentence starting "It now rivals the Choripán" with the sentence about its commonness in Buenos Aires restaurants as they seem closely related, and the former sentence feels out of place where it is right now.
DoneWikilink brioche in Description.
Done"it is called (Bondiola di Treviso)." – no need for the parentheses here.
DoneI am sure you have researched extensively, but as the article is on the shorter I do have to ask: is there anything else in RS sources that could perhaps be added? I was pretty thorough but I will see if I missed anything. Bruxton (talk) 01:39, 21 February 2023 (UTC)

Refs

Passes spotcheck—no concerns with refs 1, 3, 4, 6 or 7.

DoneRemove Ph.D. from ref 1; post-nominals are not included in citations.
DoneAre publication dates available for refs 4–5 and 7–9?
Done Ref 6 appears to have the wrong publication name; I believe it should be La Nacion.
DoneRef 8 looks unreliable as a blog. removed

Other

Short desc, See also, navbox and cats look good.

DoneRecommend adding template:use dmy dates.
DoneRecommend adding template:use X English.
DoneThe YouTube URL seems unnecessary. removed and moved the commons to last section per MOS:ORDER Bruxton (talk) 02:24, 21 February 2023 (UTC)

LunaEatsTunaI have made the changes. Thanks for a speedy review. Bruxton (talk) 02:26, 21 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Lucky for you Agriculture, food and drink is the highest GA category alphabetically :) ツLunaEatsTuna (💬)— 03:04, 21 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Issues with article

This is an exceptionally badly written article. Possibly the author's first language isn't English? In any event:

> The article never make it clear if "bondiola" refers to the sandwich specifically, or to the meat which is the basis of the sandwich.

> The article has a "history" section, which contains no history, but is rather a description of the sandwich.

> The "description" section starts in the middle, describing variations on the sandwich (which was described in the previous section) and then abruptly switches to describing how the meat is prepared. These would be better as seperate sections.

> The article describes "boston butt" as a sandwich (equivalent to bondiola sandwich), which it is not (it is a cut of raw meat, not equivalent to anything described in the article).

To the author's credit, there don't seem to be any misspelled words or egregious grammar errors. But the reviewers of the article should be ashamed of themselves for calling it a "good article". 2601:589:300:CA70:A8C7:6023:7DB4:25BA (talk) 18:19, 1 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I started the article and my first language is English. I hope that you can make positive edits to the article to address any deficits that you may discover. Bruxton (talk) 04:09, 10 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]