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Blue passports[edit]

I'm aware that its a very contentious issue in the farce that is current political discourse in the UK, but the announced new passports are clearly not the same colour as the old one, being many shades lighter. Does anyone have sources referring to pantones, or similar? Or can we have a side-by-side image? Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 20:56, 23 December 2017 (UTC)

There is no proposal, just photoshopped images by tabloids as far as I understand.--Twofortnights (talk) 21:00, 23 December 2017 (UTC)
There seems to be disagreement about whether the passport was blue or black, as well. An authoratative source on what the colour really was would be useful. Currently the fact that it was "blue" is cited to a dubious home office application form.  — Amakuru (talk) 12:44, 16 January 2018 (UTC)
It is worth noting that the design of the new blue British passport hasn't actually been released yet. The image released in December by the Home Office was only a mock-up of what the new passport would look like, but the passport contract is currently out for tender and the final design will be released in March. I think we should hold off until then before comparing passport images.With regards to the blue/black passport, there is general disagreement on which colour it was. On the online British passport application, it says 'blue/black' but the Home Office later issued a rebuttal, stating that it's always been blue. st170e 13:22, 16 January 2018 (UTC)

Aren't there still old passports to be found so that this can be established by analyzing physical copies? --Twofortnights (talk) 13:42, 16 January 2018 (UTC)

There are pictures online of the old passport which appear to be black, see here for the Evening Standard. But, the government departments are insisting the passport was always blue. st170e 13:47, 16 January 2018 (UTC)
Photos aren't reliable, if you google Indian passports you will get the same results, some look black, some look navy. It would be the best to find an old passport and check it through photometry for the exact shade.--Twofortnights (talk) 13:50, 16 January 2018 (UTC)
Unfortunately I don't have the access to the physical copy so I can't verify, but it'd be good if someone else could. For reference, this is the Home Office's rebuttal and this is an article from The Telegraph saying that the passport gets darker as it ages. But, that's the only thing we have access to at the moment. st170e 13:55, 16 January 2018 (UTC)

I've still got my last one (issued a few years after the Burgundy one was released due to stocks running out, or something). It is impossible to discern it as anything other than black to the naked eye ... except on one frayed corner ... and I'm not sure if that's fading or the material under the outer coating, this after 20 odd years of ageing. I do not recall it ever having been any other colour, and I struggle with the idea it would darken with age (not registered with the Telegraph, so can't check their rationale). That's a photo of mine in the article. The colour is described as "Navy blue" officially, which it evidently isn't, but I suppose it is possible it is some sort of incredibly dark blue just a shade or two short of true black. As others said, the mock ups are just daft guesses for newspapers. Unless it's some sort Orwellian experiment in newspeak .. "If they'll believe black is blue is black, we can get away with anything, ANYTHING I TELL YOU!". Interestingly, it's not the only passport described as blue that really looks black, check Croatia's. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wiki benguin (talkcontribs) 09:37, 29 March 2018 (UTC)