Talk:Casomorphin/Archive 1

Archive 1

question

Hello. I appreciate the article since I'm learning about possible effects of casein on autistic behavior. I'm an amateur about milk chemistry, but isn't whey one type of protein, and casein another? The first sentence makes it sound like casein is a component of whey.

Also, it might be good to state that casomorphins are also a byproduct of human milk (and probably any mammalian milk)- according to the abstracts I've read on Pubmed. Because of the different amino acid sequence in Cow's milk, Beta-casomorphin 7 is much more potent than in human milk, according to Pubmed abstracts.--Hudej 07:04, 31 March 2006 (UTC)

I too must say the first sentence currently makes no sense in my eyes: Casomorphin is a peptide sequence that is found in whey protein called casein, [...]...? --Abdull 12:07, 21 May 2006 (UTC)

Some leads...

This might prove helpful:

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=PubMed&list_uids=1374738&dopt=Abstract

Scatterwaul 15:55, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

A concerned reader

This is an extremely and alarmingly bad addition to the wikipedia. It is as presented (and as noted by the addendum "entries-with-no-citations") pathetic: it guns for pathos, i.e. our emotions -- we all want safe food for ourselves and our families.

But we also want reliable information from our wikipedia. A minimal demand of such information is that we can follow its paper trail. There are two outcomes of this insistence: (1) the author gets kudos for clever summarization and/or building and/or critique upon previous work or (2) the writer is exposed as not understanding what has come before.

In the absence of engagement with previous literature, a reasonable reader can only assume that they are dealing with dilettantes.

In short: I know squat about casein. But I do know that this wikipedia article amounts to a soapbox (while nonetheless hoping they it can be supplied with motivation for any claims that are made in the existing article). Keeping this article as is radically diminishes the wikipedia.

I found some interestinglinks here: http://www.nzma.org.nz/journal/116-1170/375/ and http://www.informaworld.com/smpp/content~content=a737811934~db=all.

Seems to imply a *negative* correlation between diseases and casomorphin(e)s... I am vegan - and I have (as someone else mentioned) seen references to casomorphin in vegan literature (advocacy). These (unless I am reading wrong) appear to run counter to... (I really should get myself an account!) (I just did. I am derryckl) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.107.112.0 (talk • contribs) 22 February 2007 10:30 (UTC)

question

Do casomorphins have an opiate effect in humans? This is a claim I've seen in some vegan sources (most notably from Morgan Spurlock's girlfriend in "Super Size Me", who says that it's why cheese is addictive), but I haven't seen any scientists verify that this is so. --207.47.0.242 (talk) 18:22, 28 May 2008 (UTC)

-- Hugging releases endogenous opioids, I wonder if that is why hugging is so addictive? :D --Bstard12 (talk) 01:03, 6 December 2011 (UTC)

Rewriting Intro Paragraph

I made a big change to the intro paragraph- First, casomorphins should be plural as there are several forms. Second, casomorphin is certainly named after casein, but it could be generalized to any milk protein derivative that has an opioid effect. Not sure about this second one. --Karuna8 (talk) 02:02, 28 August 2008 (UTC)

DOI of ref 5 is broken

DOI of ref 5 is broken and leads to an unrelated article. PMID is correct.--Bstard12 (talk) 09:31, 3 April 2011 (UTC)

This listing has been hijacked by hippies

Let's not kid ourselves, here, pretty much only hippies would ever bother going to this page, and they're clearly trying to have their way with it. -Reticuli 66.178.144.182 (talk) 08:49, 23 April 2011 (UTC)

Casomorphin antidaihrreal?

Is there any literature indicating that casomorphin is antidiahrreal that should be reported here?

Loperamide hydrochloride is an opiate that is used in most over the counter antidiarrheal medicine.

F3meyer (talk) 06:09, 12 July 2011 (UTC)

Just Sharing

Although there isnt any hard evidence, I can say from personal experience as someone with Asperger's, a form of autism, that dairy has a HORRIBLE effect on my mood, and I only discovered this in the last six months (and I just turned 30). Small amounts seem OK, but lots of cheese or glasses of milk or even too much sour cream on some burritos, and literally within hours I'm irritable, moody and just want to be alone... sometimes I even become just totally emotionally unstable. I largely cut dairy out of my diet for several months, and the difference was quite drastic. Then I went back to drinking milk again and all of that badness came right back almost immediately. Evidence, no, but I really do feel this needs to be studied and understood, because it's too drastic a change to be a fluke. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.184.166.196 (talk) 14:54, 6 August 2011 (UTC)

That doesn't look like the effects of an opioid... — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.202.241.35 (talk) 07:33, 2 October 2011 (UTC)

Actually even looks like an opioid antagonist :)--Bstard12 (talk) 00:57, 6 December 2011 (UTC)