Talk:Clayton railway station, Melbourne/GA1

GA Review

Unsuccessful. There is a path to get this to GA, but the page needs significant extension and expounding on obvious details. Not seeing any work on the Victorian Heritage side at all despite it being an obvious source of expansion and additional content to meet 3a kind of sealed the deal. Do that and then come back and renominate the page; ideally it'd be at least 50–75% longer than it is now given all the available content (so about 1200–1400 words). Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 02:09, 18 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Reviewer: Sammi Brie (talk · contribs) 03:39, 16 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

GA review (see here for what the criteria are, and here for what they are not)
It is reasonably well written. a (prose, spelling, and grammar): b (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists): It is factually accurate and verifiable. a (references): b (citations to reliable sources): c (OR): d (copyvio and plagiarism): It is broad in its coverage. a (major aspects): b (focused): It follows the neutral point of view policy. Fair representation without bias: It is stable. No edit wars, etc.: It is illustrated by images, where possible and appropriate. a (images are tagged and non-free images have fair use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):
Overall: Pass/Fail:
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Clearly, this is a high-volume station. I would like to see more newspaper discussion about it and its history; right now, it's a bit thinner on content than its traffic volume and years of operation suggest it should be. It's a bit concerning that the article is so reliant on primary sources like the PTV website—which appears to be dead link city. This one will take content expansion, not just copyediting, to get it to GA and get over the WP:GACR 3a hump. Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 03:48, 16 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Copy changes

Lead

Additionally, the station is also served by the Gippsland line, which is a part of the Victorian regional railway network. Additionally, the station is served by eight bus routes, including SmartBus route 703. These two sentences should be combined.
The lead section should include a couple of sentences on the station's history. I did not realize that it had been changed radically from at-grade to elevated until I read one of the image captions.

Description

Clayton station consists of a single island platform which is located above the road, and is connected to Clayton Road through either a lift and an escalator. The length of the platform is approximately 160 metres (520 ft), long enough for a Metro Trains' 7-car HCMT.
- The first comma should be removed. User:Sammi Brie/Commas in sentences
- "Either" is not necessary.
- Metro Trains' should not be possessive.

History

Consider longer, less choppy paragraphs. More detail here seems necessary. This station has operated since the 19th century and this is all we can get? It also seems to be a critical junction on the planned SRL; perhaps that should be discussed in more detail.

There is a Victorian Heritage Register item in the infobox, but the body does not discuss this. Presumably this applied to the now-demolished at-grade station. Why was it heritage-listed?

Platforms and services

The station also served by missing an "is"

New items

From 2035 onwards, Clayton will be connected to the Suburban Rail Loop, which will operate from Southland to Box Hill. Consider reusing one of the SRL references here. @NotOrrio: Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 05:20, 17 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Spot checks

1: Victorian Heritage Database. This contains substantial information that could be incorporated about the old station. As it is, it's only being used for the address and a reference number. Was this all demolished to make way for the new station? So many questions are just left plain unanswered. Y
7: This link is dead. Is there a link on the PTV website to help me find Clayton on the Gippsland line?
- Driveby coord comment: here's V/Line's timetable for the Traralgon line, and here's Bairnsdale. "Gippsland line" is used as a combined term for the two (Gippsland being the area they're both in); Traralgon is the core line, Bairnsdale an extension that runs less frequently. Vaticidalprophet 04:47, 16 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
19: Network Development Plan overview. p19: Sunbury, Cranbourne and Pakenham services via the Melbourne Metro rail tunnel Y
21: Another dead PTV link. The only archive is from 2012 which would strike me as very out of date to use as citation material. Please help.
25: This one at least loads. "Clayton Station/Carinish Rd" is on the bus route. Y

Images

The article has three CC-licensed images. The "Main entrance" image probably should be normal size in the article; it is quite small. Encouragement: Add alt text.

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