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Sworn officers

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The department website says 89 sworn officers. I don't think there is a need for us add up all the roles listed in the organization page and come up with a different number. Perhaps ESU officers and supervisors are not sworn - who knows? --Hroðulf (or Hrothulf) (Talk) 18:00, 3 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

  • I am confused as to what the actual number of sworn officers is in the department. On one side, it says 89 sworn officers, but on the other, it lists a total of 110 officers. Emergency Services Unit officers are sworn as they go through the most training and are allowed to do more duties than other officers in the department. Possibly all the other officers are included in the 75 officers assigned to patrol and it would be that number plus the 15 ESU officers, making a total of 90 officers? Either way, I will leave the number of sworn officers at 89, and if someone who knows the exact number of sworn officers could put it up, I would appreciate it.User:MOOOOOPS (Talk) 18:22, 3 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    • "if someone who knows the exact number of sworn officers", I agree that would be good, as my guess is that someone miscounted when writing the department's web page. EMTs in other jurisdictions are not sworn, but I guess it could be useful in some circumstances for an EMT to have power of arrest etc. I wonder if RiverBay makes annual filings to the state or to its members that would have useful, verifiable statistics. --Hroðulf (or Hrothulf) (Talk) 20:19, 3 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
      • Emergency Services Unit officers are not just EMT's. They are Public Safety Officers who go through training to become certified EMT's. Thats why they have their Peace Officer status. If they were just EMT's, they wouldnt be allowed to make arrests. I know the department has already given 2 exams already this year to hire more officers so possibly that may be the reason for the wrong numbers, but someone should have fixed the site.User:MOOOOOPS (Talk) 18:22, 3 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

CCPD?

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Why is CCPD an abbreviation for "Co-op City Department of Public Safety"?

I assume the PD stands for "Police Department". The official website is ccpd.us and CCPD is what marks the vehicles, but there is no explanation in the article of why this agency uses the CCPD acronym. Is there a technical or legal reason they don't abbreviate as "CCDPS" or on the other hand change the official name to "Co-op City Police Department?

I assume it refers to itself as CCPD maybe informally or as a nickname as the general public recognizes "PD" to denote a local law-enforcement agency but perhaps some bureaucratic municipal/state regulation or protocol prevents it from officially referring to itself as the "Co-op City Police Department". (on a possibly related note, I have always wondered why in New York City the police department is NYPD, while the fire department is FDNY and not NYPD/NYFD or PDNY/FDNY?)

66.108.243.166 (talk) 21:39, 18 November 2010 (UTC)Moi[reply]

If by "bureaucratic municipal/state regulation or protocol", you mean that by "truth", "legal status", "reality" or "the fact that they're not police officers or a police force", you may be onto something. They have no more basis to use the word "police" than the mailman does. Nowhere in New York State Criminal Procedure Law article 1, where the term "Police Officers" is defined is there any mention or, or any possible way that Co-op City Department Of Public Safety can truthfully or legally call itself "police", nor can it's employees. Alexander's security guards had patches that said "Alexander's police", that didn't make them police either. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.30.87.212 (talk) 01:58, 3 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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