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Black Mountain Side

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The article says "strongly influenced by Jansch....". I think this is a bit understated as Page's version seems to be virtually a note-for-note copy. The only thing I'm uncertain about, though, is whether Jansch was using DADGAD. He had a knack of getting a very "ringy" guitar sound from standard tuning, or just dropping his bass to D. Bluewave 08:43, 10 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

I think "strongly influenced" is fair comment. Its a folk song after all, considered to be firmly within the boundaries of Trad Arr and there are certainly enough structural differences to give Page some credit. His version has more of an Eastern feel than Jansch's and of course 'Black Mountainside' is itself a continuation of his Yardbirds piece 'White Summer' and as such takes just as much inspiration from Davy Graham's version of 'She moved through the fair.'Agree about Jansch's tuning though. I saw him live a year or so back and he definitely was not playing in DADGAD although im not sure it was simply dropped D tuning either. Whatever, he remains quite some player! Samgb 11:18, 14 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I don't think that's right! (that Neil Young uses DADGAD)

I took out the part about Neil Young being a proponent of DADGAD. Rather, he is associated with double drop d tuning, which is DADGBD. This tuning was also frequently used by David Crosby. It is also my understanding that Stills' Treetop flyer is performed in drop D tuning, which of course is DADGBE.

I think Physical Graffiti was the fifth album by Led Zeppelin.

That's not counting other stuff, so maybe that's why it says sixth. Just a point.

Physical Graffiti is their 6th album after: I, II, III, IV (runes), and Houses of the Holy. However, their live album, "The Song Remains the Same" was also, I think, released around '75. For sure, "Physical Graffiti" was their 6th studio album. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.180.183.131 (talk) 19:19, 15 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Njr (talk) 20:40, 4 February 2009 (UTC) Added reference to one of Pierre Bensusan's books, which specifically states that Graham "...was the first to adapt DADGAD tuning to the guitar".[reply]

Njr (talk) 21:01, 4 February 2009 (UTC) Added reference to the chord formed (Dsus4), its modality and unresolvedness (being neither major nor minor) and slightly cleaned up the description of how to arrive at the tuning.[reply]

Njr (talk) 18:59, 7 February 2009 (UTC) Added in references to two more Pierre Bensusan books, the first mostly in DADGAD and the second entirely so. Also added in a reference to Martin Carthy's book in which he (again) credits Dav[e]y Graham with discovering the tuning and also describes his own creation of his preferred tuning CGCDGA, by starting from DADGAD and adapting it.[reply]