Talk:Divisional insignia of the British Army

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Commonwealth section[edit]

I've added this to stop a war with the Aussies!! Usedtoknowthat (talk) 12:12, 3 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Aussie Division Patches[edit]

I think only the division HQ patch should be shown, white shapes on black. Otherwise there's just too many. Usedtoknowthat (talk) 12:14, 3 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Post War/Modern[edit]

I've added a post war section, this now begs the question "when does the Modern era begin". A year with a nice round number eg 2000 or "Options for Change"? Any Ideas?Usedtoknowthat (talk) 19:23, 30 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I'm going to use the implementation of Options for Change, vaguely early-mid 1990's. That way "Post War" can also read "Cold War".Usedtoknowthat (talk) 18:45, 10 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

WWII 1st div[edit]

The article states there was a first and second pattern for the Second World War. The divisional histories include just a white triangle on their front covers. Chappel's book on insignia also describes it as a white triangle. Ditto for the Imperial War Museaum and their articles on the divisional insignia (one such article does seem to suggest the red outline was added, but at some point after the division was reformed in Germany in the 60s). Does Cole state that it was in use during the Second World War? If no, I think maybe the red outline needs to be saved for just the post war section?EnigmaMcmxc (talk) 23:37, 27 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Cole only says that the division sign was a white triangle, often improvised from ordnance 'flannelette', with the artillery and signals putting it on a larger diamond of the appropriate colours (I've also got one for the service corps on what looks to me to be WW2 printed ordnance cloth). According to Boulanger the white triangle was mounted on squares of khaki, or green, I've got one on a black square, Cole doesn't mention any mounting. What Boulanger calls the 1943 pattern has the white triangle on the larger coloured triangle, he shows staff and infantry (red), armour (yellow), signals (blue), service (yellow/blue), I also have a medical corps one with a (large) maroon triangle. In the patches I have, the white triangle, when separate, is either cotton (flannelette?), leather or felt, the Italian front was a cauldron of improvisation apparently, you'd think a post war series would have a common material. Chappell (p. 17) implies that there could have been a number of sizes and backings.

In short it seems you could pick a source and run with almost any arrangement, likely they were all worn, not helpful unfortunately. Usedtoknowthat (talk) 22:29, 5 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Maybe call them variations?Usedtoknowthat (talk) 22:30, 5 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]