Talk:Elephant test

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There is another philosophical state, for which I don't have a name, and the article doesn't have a link.

The case is as follows.

We have the group within the room. One person notices something peculiar and asks for an explanation. The question appears to lacks crispness. Most answer, knowledgably, that the questioner has misunderstood and here is their knowledge. The questioner repeats the 'this is peculiar' part. One of the group then addresses the peculiarity part, seeing the implied issue and answers. But is then 'shot down' by the rest of the group who still believe the questioner has misunderstood, don't see the peculiarity and refute the answer. The one who has seen the answer cannot make the elephant visible.

Is there a good name, and a nice example? These occur regularly in discussion forums (usually on technical problems)

It is a sort of half way house toward an Out of Context problem. Sort of using the same words but refering to different ('wrong') context.

The 'Elephant in the Room' is avoiding the issue.

The 'Elephant Test' is an information naming issue (of existing information).

The 'I see the elephant, why don't you?' is an inability to inform issue.

Indian?[edit]

I am assuming that the word "Indian" used in this article refers to people who are from the nation of India, and not Native Americans. Either way, the word should be linked for clarification, no?


the giraffe test[edit]

How about the giraffe test - the one that goes:


Q: How do you put a giraffe in a refrigerator?

A: You open the door, put in the giraffe, and close the door.

Q: How do you put an elephant in a refrigerator?

No, it's not open the door, put in the elephant, and close the door. There's still a giraffe in there!

A: You open the door, take out the giraffe, put in the elephant, and close the door.

Q: The Lion King is hosting an animal conference. All but one of the animals attend. Who is missing?

A: The elephant. He's in the refrigerator – you just put him there.

Q: There is a river you must cross but it is used by crocodiles, and you do not have a boat. How do you manage it?

A: You jump in and swim across. All the crocodiles are at the Animal Meeting!


Is that anywhere here? 24.56.166.100 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 01:50, 3 March 2010 (UTC).[reply]

Q: An aeroplane is halfway to its destination but the fuel has almost ran out and the plane will crash. There are 100 people and 10 crew on the plane. What do you do?
A: Go to the kitchen and throw out the refrigerator.
Q: An old couple is walking home. The man pauses to tie his shoelaces. Hearing a noise, the woman turns back to see him dead. How did he die?
A: A refrigerator fell upon his head.
--Joshua Issac (talk) 01:53, 28 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Proposed resolution to the problem of describing an elephant[edit]

Just link to Elephant, FFS. --86.152.77.15 (talk) 14:37, 21 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

+1. --Joshua Issac (talk) 01:54, 28 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]