Talk:Florin (English coin)
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Coin World March 13th 2006
The front page of the US subscription paper, Coin World, and also at its Website (http://www.coinworld.com/news/cwhl.asp?uID=&hlID=1 but full article is not accessible without a subscription), states clearly that the double florin and double leopard are the same coin (six shillings -- 72 pence). It refers to a discovery made in Great Britain (south of England) in January 2006 -- only the third example found. Is there a mistake there in Coin World or is Wikipedia article on the English florin of 1344 wrong ???
In any event this new discovery may be worth a mention, along with how the first two coins (now in British Museum) were found in 1857. Each of the three known examples of the "double leopard" (as per Coin World) have slight design differences (varities). In all three examples, the reverse legend in Latin states: IHC TRANSIENS PER MEDIUM ILLORUM IBAT (Jesus passing through the midst of them, went on his way - Luke 4:30 (Latin Vulgate)). This may well be an illusion to Edward's passage unharmed through the midst of the French fleet (and ultimate victory) at the Battle of Sluys in June 24, 1340, in the early stages of what would become known as the Hundred Years’ War. see generally http://www.chass.utoronto.ca/~munro5/MONEYLEC.htm (which refers to double florin as the 72 pence issue) and http://www.finds.org.uk/medievalcoins/late_denoms.php (florin and double leopard are desinated as the same -- 72 pence coin) 15:54, 8 March 2006 (UTC)
- They're confused! The Coincraft 1999 catalogue which I refer to clearly lists separate coins:
The Half florin or leopard, worth three shillings (36d) - page 187, and the Florin or Double leopard at six shillings (72d) - page 155. If Coin World are saying that the double leopard was the same thing as the double florin (and the link you give doesn't currently point to anything about these coins), then they're just plain wrong. -- Arwel (talk) 19:19, 8 March 2006 (UTC)
Merci de votre intérêt et de votre réponse rapide.The Coin World link goes only to the teaser line, the rest is something that one must pay to view.HTweb 17:46, 9 March 2006 (UTC)