Talk:Family tree of French monarchs

Though this tree, as all of these trees have been, is very good, there's one error on it.

Henry II and Catherine de Medicis never had a daughter named Violet. They did, however, have twin daughters named Jeanne and Victoire in 1556. Jeanne died at birth, but Victoire lived for two months. Randee15 05:47, 14 Jul 2004 (UTC)

You are right: i'll substitute Charlotte and Violet by Joan and Victoria in the next version of this tree. Meanwhile, i suggest you put a note in the page (if you care). Thanks, Muriel G 18:28, 14 Jul 2004 (UTC)

There's another error: Louis XVIII had a son who have been king under the name Louis XIX for few minutes, before he abdicated as well. That's why the following Louis is Louis XX. Helldjinn 09:23, 19 Aug 2004 (UTC)

How about the Merovingians that came before the Carolingians? --Slugguitar 14:40, 12 Sep 2004 (UTC)

Just to note, Helldjinn is incorrect above. It is Charles X whose eldest son was Louis. Although, indeed, he might be considered to have been de jure king for a few minutes in 1830, before he abdicated in favor of his nephew, the future comte de Chambord, who might thus be considered to have been king for a few days as Henri V until the usurpation of the Duc d'Orleans, this does not seem to be the general theory in operation at the time or later. john k 05:12, 30 Sep 2004 (UTC)

Another inacurracy in the Carolingians Charles the Fat was the son of Louis the German, not Carloman of France. His birth date was 832 and he died in 888. Also, I suggest that we do a major change to the tree to reflect all the Carolingians, not just the French ones ( I am considering doing a family tree for Holy Roman Emperors too), So I could use the tree twice.

Merovingians?

Why aren't they here?Celsiana 04:19, 4 February 2007 (UTC)

I agree. The Merovingians were more French in disposition than the later Carolingians, who were attracted toward a more imperial view. But if this table displays the Carolingians, then why not the Bonapartes (who were Emperors of France, not Rome)? IMHO, the Merovingians and Capetians are more strictly French than either imperial families.

Who could forget the Plantagenets either? There seems to be an unwritten rule that we don't factor in Edward III until George III, even though they were heavily intermarried to the (strictly) French (and Navarrese) dynasty. Until the end of the Stuart and Bourbon dynasties, the British monarchy was always focused on its southern dominion. Initially, only the Huguenot Republicans supported this claim and were exploited by the British. The Hanoverians unexpectedly then did a 360 degree turn and supported the Catholic Royalists, effectively causing a death sentence for the French establishment. I don't think it is possible to separate Paris and London affairs. Both countries are strange. The UK is a Protestant Monarchy, while France is a Catholic Republic. Usually, there would be a Protestant Republic and Catholic Monarchy. It is only because of the way these two countries have intertwined, that it is otherwise. I say this because initially, only Calvinists in either country were interested in abolishing the monarchy. Les Invisibles 23:49, 10 February 2007 (UTC)

Small error

Another small error, the second wife of Philip, Duke of Orleans, the brother of Louis XIV, was Elisabeth Charlotte of the Palatinate, not Isabelle Charlotte of Savoy. Concerning the error remarked on above, I agree that if Louis XIX (who as already mentioned was the son of Charles X, not Louis XVIII) is to be shown as such for reigning for 20 minutes, so should Henry V be, he managed a whole five days! It is debatable perhaps whether either should appear as such, but in fact Henry V does not appear at all, and where he would be the Dukes of Parma are rather misleadingly shown as proceeding from Charles X's younger son the Duke of Berry. Which they did, but through a female line. Minor criticisms of what are obviously lovingly prepared trees.

86.142.160.153 16:14, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

Wow!

The person who made this thing is incredible! Two thumbs up!