Talk:Frösö Runestone

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Translation quibbles[edit]

I haven't the faintest idea how I'm supposed to translate "färgeläger." I just put "ferry terminal" instead. Also, can some Swede double check my translation of the sentence which explains how this stone is unique? --Adamrush 4 July 2005 22:26 (UTC)

"Ferry camp" perhaps? You're the Anglo here :) I understand it as a färjeläger from before the age of steam, not a place where modern ferrys anchor. Also, I understand the text on the Swedish site as that the Christianization concerned the whole of Jämtland, not just Östman, which is how I understand this article. --Salleman 05:20, 12 July 2005 (UTC)[reply]

"Ferry port"? Modern ferries still dock at a "färjeläger". Not sure if ferries ever anchor....—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 83.255.67.129 (talk • contribs) 01:48, 13 March 2007.

You're right about the Christianization--I just didn't write the translation very clearly. I'll get that fixed. --Adamrush 17:42, 21 July 2005 (UTC)[reply]

The ending?[edit]

Is the ending correct? Souldn't it be something like "Tryn carved. Respect these runes."???—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 83.255.67.129 (talk • contribs) 01:48, 13 March 2007.

Well, according to the external link on this page - [1], that is correct.. But according to Rundata's index, the ending line is Trjonn and Steinn carved these runes, nothing noting the 'Akta sedan dessa runor' line. Below is the info from the translations done by Rundata. Note that the extra characters have meaning according to Rundatas way of transcribing things. mceder (u t c) 20:58, 15 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

$ austmoth[r]/austmoth[(r)] kuthfastaR sun */' lit rai.../ra(i)[(s)]... .../...(-)[(n)] thino/(th)(i)no auk| |kirua bru thisa| |auk h[on] [li]t/[li](t) kristno eotalont/eo(t)alont [*]/ (o)sbiurn kirthi bru triun/(t)riun rai[s]t auk tsain/(t)sain runoR thisaR

$ "Austmadhr, "GudhfastaR sunn, let ræi[sa stæin] thenna ok gærva bro thessa ok hann let kristna "Iamtaland. "Asbiorn gærdhi bro, "Tryn(?)/"Trionn ræist ok "Stæinn runaR thessaR.

"Austmadhr, "Gudhfastar sonr, lét rei[sa stein] thenna ok gera brú thessa ok hann lét kristna "Jamtaland. "Ásbjôrn gerdhi brú, "Trjónn reist ok "Steinn rúnar thessar.

Austmadhr, Gudhfastr's son had this stone raised and this bridge made and he had Jamtaland Christianized. Ásbjôrn made the bridge, Trjónn(?) and Steinn carved these runes.

Northernmost?[edit]

Wouldn't the Kingigtorssuaq Runestone be farther north? Haukur 20:38, 13 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Maybe you're right. But is that actually a runestone? It looks more like a stone with runes. If you understand the difference. I would call it an item with runes, and I am sure there are such items (e.g. carved pieces of wood) from northern Norway which are even farther north than the Kingigtorssuaq "Runestone".

Jens Persson (213.67.64.22 (talk) 22:47, 5 February 2008 (UTC))[reply]

Let's write northernmost in Scandinavia, instead. OK?

Jens Persson (213.67.64.22 (talk) 20:27, 10 February 2008 (UTC))[reply]

That seems fine. I do, however, agree that runestone can be defined in a way that excludes the stone with runes at Kingigtorssuaq. That article may have an unsuitable title. By the way, any opinion on the Greenlandic Norse article? Haukur (talk) 20:34, 10 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Some extra pedantry: The widest definition of Scandinavia includes Greenland. Haukur (talk) 20:35, 10 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

If the Kingigtorssuaq Runestone is located in Copenhagen, doesn't that technically make the Frösö Runestone the world's northernmost? ;) //Heimvennar - divider 22:29, 12 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The definition of a runestone here on Wikipedia is a a raised stone with a runic inscription and the Greenlandic stone does not fit this description. In the distribution segment in that article Jämtland is noted as having the northernmost runestone. I'm changing this article to fit with that page, I'll add raised runestone in order to avoid confusion. //Heimvennar - divider 09:16, 17 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The definition of a "runestone" in the article about runestones does not even mention your description (at least not anymore). Which is a good thing, really, since I don't agree with your definition at all. The Kingigtorssuaq-stone is a stone with runes on it, and that makes it a runestone. Simple as that. Adding more rules to that definition would just be making things unnecessary complicated. A lot of runesstones would not qualify if we used your definition, since runestones aren't always raised. 213.112.67.196 (talk) 06:13, 13 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]