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Reviewer: Sturmvogel 66 (talk · contribs) 15:12, 30 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]


I'll get to this shortly.--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 15:12, 30 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

  • No DABs, one dead external link.
  • Need to add PD-old or some other appropriate license to accompany PD-Art in your images.
    Sorry, not sure what you are asking for here. All images are linked to commons where their licences can be viewed. Are you asking for the licence to be added to the image in hidden text?--Ykraps (talk) 19:25, 4 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
    • You're responsible for the licenses of all the images used in your article. Click on one of images and go to Commons for more details, you can read the text of the license which shows that the existing PD-Art license is not enough; most all of them need a PD-old license as well. See Commons:Copyright tags for more details. It suck, I know, but feel free to ask me or on Commons for help.--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 22:35, 4 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
      I'm struggling with this. How do I know which licence needs to be added? Image:Map of Essequibo and Demerara, 1798.jpg, was uploaded from flickr [[1]] so presumably that's available under (CC BY 2.0) licence; File:Battle of Basque Roads 11 April.svg, was uploaded and by its creator, User:BarretBonden under (CC BY-SA 3.0), but the rest I'm not sure about. File:Admiral Sir John Thomas Duckworth (1748-1817).jpg appears to have been uploaded from the National Maritime Museum but whether their copyright[2] allows that I'm not sure. Any ideas?--Ykraps (talk) 16:17, 6 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
      I have left a question at Commons help desk, here[3]--Ykraps (talk) 08:51, 9 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
      Done by User:De728631 and User:Yann
  • Amazon class Link this to the class article, add a hyphen and italicize the class name. Even if it's a redlink. Do this in the infobox and in the first sentence. See Template:Sclass- for information on how to do that if you don't know how.
    Done - I have added a red link to Amazon class frigate (1795) and hyphenated.--Ykraps (talk) 19:25, 4 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • Link the pound symbol, frigate in the lede, Woolwich, broken up, receiving ship, squadron, keel, gundeck, Cadiz, Havana, cable, Toulon, Malta, privateer, fireship, brig.
    Done - There is no article for cable, I have linked to Hawser which is less specific.
  • Capitalize admiral in Rear-admiral or Vice-admiral.
    I think lower-case is more usual, see Rear admiral (Royal Navy) and Vice admiral (Royal Navy), and Collins English Dictionary (3rd Edition). Glasgow: Harper Collins. 1991. ISBN 0 00 433286 5. and Chambers Dictionary (11th Edition). Edinburgh: Chambers Harrap. 2008. ISBN 978 0550 10289 8. both use lower-case (Chambers hyphenates, Collins does not). Confusingly vice admiral (lower-case) is not the same as Vice-Admiral (capitals).--Ykraps (talk) 19:25, 4 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • The second pair of "Amazons" were marginally smaller at 925 87⁄94 (bm) and were built from Pitch Pine. I don't understand, what second pair? There have only been two ships mentioned thus far in this para. Pitch Pine should not be capitalized.
    The section on construction explains that there were four Amazon-class frigates, the first pair (Amazon and Emerald) ordered 24/5/1794, followed by a second pair, ordered on 31/7/1795. However, if you have a suggestion to make this clearer, I'm happy to entertain it.--Ykraps (talk) 19:25, 4 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • Is Berkley notable?
    In Wikipedia terms (the subject of multiple third party sources), yes. Other articles mentioning him have used a red link, are you suggesting we follow suit?--Ykraps (talk) 19:25, 4 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • Why did the squadron not engage Santissima Trinidad?
    Done - Berkley (not knowing the true condition of Trinidad) thought he was outgunned. He attempted to keep the Spanish in sight while awaiting reinforcements. I have added a bit to the article.--Ykraps (talk) 19:25, 4 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • brought her to action passive voice How about "attacked" instead?
    Done.--Ykraps (talk) 19:25, 4 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • British Service decapitalize service
    Done.--Ykraps (talk) 19:25, 4 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • second bombardment of Cadiz shouldn't this have a link?
    Done - Although I didn't consider Assault on Cádiz (1797), a long, drawn out, naval blockade whch included two bombardments to sufficiently illustrate it. The article needs some work. Perhaps I'll add it to my list.--Ykraps (talk) 19:25, 4 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • admiralty Capitalize and link.
    Done.--Ykraps (talk) 19:25, 4 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • The squadron left Gibraltar on 9 May but Emerald became comma after "May".
    Done.--Ykraps (talk) 19:25, 4 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • Don't capitalize Seventy-fours
    Done.--Ykraps (talk) 19:25, 4 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • 10-gunner?? Was this one of the escorts or a merchant ship?
    Done - She was a merchant vessel and have added this info to the article. Merchantmen of that era were invariably armed. They had less guns than warships of a comparable size, of course, because they needed more space for cargo.--Ykraps (talk) 19:37, 4 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • Done up to Caribbean service; more later.--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 18:55, 3 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Just an FYI, all I was really looking for was the general type of ship, brig, schooner, third-rate, etc. Gun count is nice but not always necessary and can be used on second appearance as a change of pace. Congratulations, I think that we're done here. I hope that you will continue to edit more warship articles; there's too few of us as is.--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 14:16, 14 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks and thanks for helping to bring this to a satisfactory conclusion so promptly. I'm not normally in such a rush but as I explained, I'm away soon. Best regards--Ykraps (talk) 15:52, 14 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]