Talk:Imperial Bedroom/GA1

GA Review

Passed. BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 22:52, 3 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Reviewer: BennyOnTheLoose (talk · contribs) 01:17, 1 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

GA review (see here for what the criteria are, and here for what they are not)
It is reasonably well written. a (prose, spelling, and grammar): b (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists): It is factually accurate and verifiable. a (references): b (citations to reliable sources): c (OR): d (copyvio and plagiarism): It is broad in its coverage. a (major aspects): b (focused): It follows the neutral point of view policy. Fair representation without bias: It is stable. No edit wars, etc.: It is illustrated by images, where possible and appropriate. a (images are tagged and non-free images have fair use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):
Overall: Pass/Fail:
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Copyvio check - I reviewed the top few matches from Earwing's Copyvio Detector. No concerns.

Images: FUR provided for the album cover. Other images are CC. Captions and positioning are fine. The album cover doesn't have alt text. I didn't see any directly-relevant images of Costello on Commons, but you could consider adding one of him.

Added the alt text. The only question is...which one? – zmbro _{(talk) (cont)} 19:18, 2 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The new images seem fine. Adding a pic of Costello is optional. BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 08:26, 3 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Sounds good – zmbro _{(talk) (cont)} 22:29, 3 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Sources

No unresolved issues.

Background

"had only reached the top 30" - maybe add something about the performance of his earlier albums. A collection of out-takes reahing the top 30 doesn't sound too bad, without the context.

Valid point. Fixed; this also makes "another massive success akin to Armed Forces" later on make more sense

I'd omit "Additionally," but it's OK to retain it.
Add year for Almost Blue
" himself the artist," - " himself as an artist,"?
Could wikilink Devon - I'm not sure how well known it is internationally.
"an eight-track album" made me think of 8-track tape but it's fine to retain.

All above done

Recording and production

"came from Trust" - mention it was an out-take (or whatever)

It was actually only written during that time not recorded, but I clarified that

"road-tested" seems a bit informal

performed live? – zmbro _{(talk) (cont)} 19:18, 2 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

That would be fine. BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 08:26, 3 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

"The vast experimentation utilised unusual instruments" - maybe just something like "The group utilised unusual instruments"?

Done

"Costello stated that his performance led him to rewrite the number" - specify the "his" if not Costello, or "his own" if it is.

Clarified

"Nieve's piano exerts itself prominently throughout the songs" - reword; I know what this is getting at, but "piano exerts itself" doesn't seem appropriate

Done

" the last of which the band" - "the latter...", or "the second..."

Done

Music and lyrics

[11][9][29][30] - refs out of order. Also consider WP:BUNDLING

Done

"an old cabaret poster he saw in a hotel dining room" - is the "he" Costello, or the character?

Clarified

"embellishes 1960s psychedelia" - I haven't read the Perone source, but isn't it more like "recalls..." or "echoes..." or something?

Fixed

the last line, "love and unhappiness go arm in arm", - I don't think this is actaully the last line, is it?

You're right...it's not. That's awkward. Removed 'last'

"Gouldstone sparks further discussion in God's Comic," - not sure "sparks further discussion" is the right phrase.

provides? – zmbro _{(talk) (cont)} 19:18, 2 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

That's fine. BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 08:26, 3 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Artwork and packaging

Seems fine. (I remember first seeing the LP lyric sheet - amazing!)

Release and promotion

"To fill the time," seems redundant.
.[10][1][8] ref. ordering

Both fixed

Critical reception

Is "Most critics were unanimous in their admiration.." based on the content of the sources, or that there were four review that expressed admiration?

Changed to 'several'

[16][25][54][55] - consider WP:BUNDLING

Done

"but viewed it both positively and negatively" - tweak wording, unless the point is that particular critics viewed "both positively and negatively"

"viewed it in both positive and negative lights"? – zmbro _{(talk) (cont)} 19:18, 2 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

How about something like "this attracted both positive and negative reactions"? BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 08:26, 3 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

"Considine deduced" - I don;t think "deduced" is quite the right word

Changed to 'stated'

Tour and aftermath

"The singer boasted more friendly on-stage demeanor throughout" - not sure "boasted" is right here; more friendly than what? (Previous tours, I suppose)

Clarified

Embraced by funk and R&B flavours," - "Embracing funk and R&B flavours,"?

Fixed

Retrospective appraisal

Seems fine.

Reissues

Seems fine.

Track listing

No source mentioned.

Sourced 2002 liner since that should suffice – zmbro _{(talk) (cont)} 19:18, 2 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, suitable for this. BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 08:26, 3 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Personnel

No issues.

Charts

No issues.

Notes

Page/chapter references for notes d and e would help verification.

References

Sources seem to be appropriate. I spot checked a few whilst reading through, no concerns.

Infobox and Lead

No issues.

Fine work again, zmbro. I made a couple of minor edits. Revert any that aren't appealing. Feel free to challenge any of my comments above. Regards, BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 15:05, 1 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

BennyOnTheLoose Thanks for picking this up so quickly. I really didn't expect that (considering no one's taken Trust and Blue yet) so I went in and added some links and images, etc, before I started on your comments. Thanks again for reviewing. – zmbro _{(talk) (cont)} 19:19, 2 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I'm enjoying the articles and learning more about the albums from them. I jumped on Imperial Bedroom as I count it amongst Costello and the Attractions' masterpieces. BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 08:26, 3 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

BennyOnTheLoose All changes made so we should be all set. Thanks again for reviewing so quickly! – zmbro _{(talk) (cont)} 22:29, 3 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

zmbro I'm satisfied that the article meets the GA criteria so am passing it. Regards, BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 22:50, 3 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.