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References for "Other notations"[edit]

I added what references I could find when I wrote this section, but some of them (to, and to the photograph of Japanese notation board) are low quality and could do with replacing, if anyone has more authorative sources. Lessthanideal (talk) 09:01, 13 August 2008 (UTC)


The article previously said that Kifu is also used for Shogi (Japanese chess), but then all the content and diagrams are about recording Go games. There's nothing on the Shogi page about using Kifu to record Shogi games. I've taken out the Shogi references in the Kifu article, and I'll leave a request for clarification on the Shogi talk page. Lessthanideal (talk) 00:33, 28 January 2009 (UTC)

Kifu (棋譜) is a general Japanese term for a game record of igo, shogi, chess, etc. English shogi players often refer to records of their games as kifus. I think there should be at least a passing mention of it. (talk) 20:57, 10 December 2009 (UTC)


I believe this article needs rewriting, given the syntax used is most likely of a second-language speaker and as such it makes it less coherent.FoCuSandLeArN (talk) 17:59, 30 May 2012 (UTC)

Please organize[edit]

It should have sections for the records: Format/Notation, History, Impact in Society, Collections.

History: he early historical formats, when did the records start? How were they transcribed? Did an observer write down the moves or did the players do so themselves?

Format/Notation: What is the format of the kifu? A grid with circled numbers at each intersection? How did they distinguish between black and white, as they did not have computers to fill in the ink back then? Look at Algebraic chess notation where they provide clear examples of recording a game.

History: How has the kifu changed over time? What is the current recording method? Is that current method still considered a kifu? If the format has been obsoleted by a better notation, then indicate so.

Collections: Are there examples of famous kifu collections kept or published by any Go masters?

Impact: Did the kifu influence other games? As mentioned in the previous discussion, there are shogi records. If it is just a catch-all word for game record, then you can consider making sections for Go, Shogi, and any other games.

One the sections are reasonably organized and written up, then resubmit for copyediting. -AngusWOOF (talk) 03:49, 14 May 2013 (UTC)

Proposed merge with Go file format[edit]

I'm proposing merging "Go file format" into "Kifu". The subject appears to be a non-notable file format. The article consists of four sentences which could easily be copied into this article; it's already described here with just as much detail anyways. Pianoman320 (talk) 07:15, 23 January 2016 (UTC)

Agreed and  Done Klbrain (talk) 14:02, 13 January 2018 (UTC)

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