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<small>—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|signed]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/KavyaSrinivasanV1984 IITK|KavyaSrinivasanV1984 IITK ]] ([[User talk:KavyaSrinivasanV1984 IITK|talk]]) |
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== TO, yenkata setty or IPs 122..... == |
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You are wise and educated. You don't need anyone elses advice. Thank you, |
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I feel the article should be edited for clarity. I cannot follow the article at all! People who do not have any understanding of the subject should be able to understand the article. Thanks. [[User:Stephenchou0722|Stephenchou0722]] 20:55, 4 December 2007 (UTC) |
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Reply: Hi Stephenchou0722, I am working to fix the article for clarity and authenticity. Please follow my updates. Thank you. [[User:SriVaasaviKanyakaParameswariAalayamu Penugonda|SriVaasaviKanyakaParameswariAalayamu Penugonda ]] 13:27, 6 December 2007(UTC) |
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Reply: Hi stephen I agree on your points raised ,the earlier versions were nothing but copies of vasavi puranams giving only the puranams version with out giving either reality or facts just as in community web sites , I wish to present a balanced unbiased version of my community ,not just relate it to some north indian or aryan legacy. <small>—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Yenkata setty|Yenkata setty]] ([[User talk:Yenkata setty|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Yenkata setty|contribs]]) 16:30, 28 January 2008 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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Hi friend I am born a Komati whose ancestors belong to the 102 gothras of Komatis now neatly rechristened as 'Arya Vysya' I dont intend to hurt your ego or sentiment. All castes in India claim to be the purest of blue eyed, white skinned aryans and ape and create and enforce certain customs to pose as Aryans. As a dravidian member of a Dravidian caste let us put facts first, What is wrong in acknowledging we are all black skinned dravidians who we really are, Just for a second put your pretensions and myths apart and think rationally arent we simply aping the northeners are we not black skinned dravidians ,I do agree some of us have married White women the Patitas by vrtue of our wealth and pelf,that doesnt mean we are aryans,Be a MAN accept who we really are and please contribute omething positive , I wish people stop using vulgar language and caste dogma.I suggest wikipedia to stop allowing indians from writing about castes of a Bygone era. <small>—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Yenkata setty|Yenkata setty]] ([[User talk:Yenkata setty|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Yenkata setty|contribs]]) 08:19, 11 February 2008 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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== To yenakata setty == |
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You should realise as a grownup that you are the one using the words Aryan and Dravidian in the articles. |
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When the Komati article was first started it never had all the racist words that you laid foundation to. |
When the Komati article was first started it never had all the racist words that you laid foundation to. |
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| ⚫ | No one is claiming any denomination. And you should also learn that "your" Aryan Dravidian theory has been abandoned long back. The problem with you is that you are a big racist. The ego problem is with you. By the way we never claimed that we are big and aryans. I assume that as a grown up you should have the least common sense that all Indians are mixed and about you northern white concept, India has been occuppied by forces and people have been raped. The people that claim aryan descent in India are mostly the rape victims. I am sure that people of your sort never could be changed but who knows if you don't believe God and just believe in all these crap racist theories, then just let it be so. FATE has been laying hand on one and another some day. May be it is your day now, it could be some other's some other time. Thanks for your contributions from your point of view. |
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No one is claiming any denomination. And you should also learn that "your" Aryan Dravidian theory has been abandoned |
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| ⚫ | long back. The problem with you is that you are a big racist. The ego problem is with you. By the way we never claimed that we are big and aryans. I assume that as a grown up you should have the least common sense that all Indians are mixed and about you northern white concept, India has been occuppied by forces and people have been raped. The people that claim aryan descent in India are mostly the rape victims. I am sure that people of your sort never could be changed but who knows if you don't believe God and just believe in all these crap racist theories, then just let it be so. FATE has been laying hand on one and another some day. May be it is your day now, it could be some other's some other time. Thanks for your contributions from your point of view. |
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Please dont Scandalise Bcoz I gave the factual and truthful interpretation other than yours fictitious article. |
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YENKATA SETTY WHY DON'T YOU JUST FUCK THIS CASTE. KOMATIS ARE FUCKING LOSERS. IS THIS ENOUGH FOR YOU. JUST KEEP FUCKING THESE KOMATI BASTARDS. |
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"WHY DON'T THE GUYS WHO WRITE ALL DIRT ABOUT THIS CASTE JUST FUCK THIS CASTE. FUCK US FUCK ALL KOMATIS. IS THIS ENOUGH. OR YOU WANT MORE DIRT TO BE THROWN ON KOMATIS." |
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THIS ARTICLE DESERVES DELETION BECAUSE PEOPLE KEEP VANDALIZING IT. WIKIPEDIA IS NOT HELPING TO DO ANYTHING WITH IT. |
THIS ARTICLE DESERVES DELETION BECAUSE PEOPLE KEEP VANDALIZING IT. WIKIPEDIA IS NOT HELPING TO DO ANYTHING WITH IT. |
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Revision as of 10:45, 25 February 2008
All members
Please do not use curse words. Please do not vandalize.
—Preceding signed comment added by KavyaSrinivasanV1984 IITK (talk)
TO, yenkata setty or IPs 122.....
Those who are worried more about some other's caste than their own are destined to born in it. You are wise and educated. You don't need anyone elses advice. Thank you,
To yenakata setty
You should realise as a grownup that you are the one using the words Aryan and Dravidian in the articles. When the Komati article was first started it never had all the racist words that you laid foundation to. No one is claiming any denomination. And you should also learn that "your" Aryan Dravidian theory has been abandoned long back. The problem with you is that you are a big racist. The ego problem is with you. By the way we never claimed that we are big and aryans. I assume that as a grown up you should have the least common sense that all Indians are mixed and about you northern white concept, India has been occuppied by forces and people have been raped. The people that claim aryan descent in India are mostly the rape victims. I am sure that people of your sort never could be changed but who knows if you don't believe God and just believe in all these crap racist theories, then just let it be so. FATE has been laying hand on one and another some day. May be it is your day now, it could be some other's some other time. Thanks for your contributions from your point of view.
—Preceding unsigned comment added by Toubrojawiki (talk • contribs) 08:42, 11 February 2008 (UTC)
THIS ARTICLE DESERVES DELETION BECAUSE PEOPLE KEEP VANDALIZING IT. WIKIPEDIA IS NOT HELPING TO DO ANYTHING WITH IT.
THINGS TO NOTE:
-- THERE IS NOTHING LIKE SOUTH INDIAN OR NORTH INDIAN IN RESPECT TO THE CASTE SYSTEM. If anyone wants to write so, then do it for all castes in Wikipedia if you have such a big interest. Please do not say South Indian Caste System and North Indian Caste System because we don't say South Indian Hindu Religion and North Indian Hindu Religion. THERE IS ONLY ONE HINDU BELIEF.
-- ABOUT REGISTERING A CASTE: DURING THE 1900'S THE INDIAN GOVERNMENT (NOT JUST MADRAS) PASSED A LAW WHICH REQUIRED ALL INDIAN CASTES TO REGISTER THEIR COMMUNITY. THEREFORE, IT IS NOT JUST ARYA VYSAS, KALINGA VYSYAS OR ANY OTHER COMMUNITY OF THE KOMATI DENOMINATION WHO HAD REGISTERED THEIR COMMUNITY WITH THE INDIAN GOVERNMENT. THIS IS TRUE FOR ALL INDIAN CASTES IN INDIA. THEY HAVE ALL REGISTERED ACCORDINGLY WITH DIFFERENT NAMES. One could even say so about all castes in Wikipedia if they have such a big interest.
-- PLEASE UNDERSTAND THAT "NOT" ALL KOMATIS ARE ARYA VYSYAS, ONLY THE 102 GOTRITES ARE ARYA VYSYAS AND THEY BELIEVE IN VEDAS AND KANYAKA AND THEIR GURU IS BHASKARACHARYA. BHASKARACHARYA WAS A BRAHMIN AND NOT A VYSYA. Please read the authentic literature (Vaishya Dharma Prasikhaa (1890)) and it is clearly written that he was a Brahmin. THE OTHER GROUP OF KOMATIS ARE TRIVARNIKA KOMATIS, KALINGA KOMATIS ETC IN ANDHRA PRADESH. It is not for other KOMATIS.
-- IN LATER TIMES (CONTEMPORARILY), ARYA VYSYAS ARE CONFUSED FOR THE WHOLE OF KOMATIS. BUT ONLY THE 102 GOTRITES ARE ARYA VYSYAS.
-- THE KOMATI LITERATURE THAT IS AVAILABLE IS EITHER CORRUPTED OR IS MISTAKEN TO REPRESENT THE WHOLE OF ARYA VYSYAS. BUT KOMATIS REPRESENT KALINGA VYSYAS, ARYA VYSYAS ETC.
-- IT IS NOT KANNIKA. IT IS KANYAKA. KANYAKA IS A SANSKRIT WORD. KANNIKA IS A CORRUPTED VERSION THAT IS IN USAGE MOSTLY IN TAMIL NADU.
-- PLEASE KNOW THAT CHETTIARS OF TAMIL NADU ARE NOT KOMATIS. THEY ARE JUST CHETTIARS. THERE ARE TELUGU KOMATIS IN TAMIL NADU. THEY COULD BE OF ANY KOMATI COMMUNITY and not just Arya Vysya etc. Many Smartha, Niyogi and Vaidiki Telugu Brahmins who settled in Tamil Nadu have Iyer as their last name though Iyer is a Tamil Title. Same way, many Sri Vaishnavas who settled in Tamil Nadu have Iyengar as their title. TELUGU KOMATIS of TAMIL NADU COULD HAVE CHETTY TITLE. BUT MAJORITY OF THE CHETTIES ARE CHETTIARS. NOT ALL CHETTIARS ARE KOMATIS, BUT SOME KOMATIS MAY HAVE CHETTY TITLE.
-- ANDHRA VYSYAS USE GUPTA, SRESHTI AND SETTI TITLES. GUPTA IS A VYSYA TITLE. IN VEDAS IT IS CLEARLY MENTIONED THAT SHARMA IS FOR BRAHMIN, VERMA IS FOR KSHATRIYA AND GUPTA IS FOR VYSYAS. IN ANDHRA PRADESH ARYA VYSYAS, KALINGA VYSYAS AND OTHER VYSYAS USE GUPTA TITLE AS WELL AS SETTI TITLE. SETTI TITLE IS USED BY PEOPLE OF KAPU CASTE (NOT A VYSYA CASTE) AS WELL.
-- SHETTIES OF KARNATAKA ARE BUNTS. THEY SHOULD NOT BE CONFUSED WITH THE KOMATI SETTIES OF ANDHRA PRADESH. BUT SINCE NOT VERY LONG, VERY FEW PEOPLE IN ANDHRA ARE SPELLING SETTI AS SHETTY. BUT THE KANNADA SHETTIES WITHOUT KOMATI GOTRAS ARE BUNTS.
-- PLEASE UNDERSTAND THAT THERE ARE ARYA VYSYAS AND OTHER KOMATIS IN MAHARASTRA AS WELL. THEY ARE NOT A DIFFERENT CASTE. PLEASE TAKE A LOOK AT THIS SITE : http://www.vksm.com/
-- PLEASE AVOID USING THE WORDS DRAVIDIAN AND ARYAN. ARYAN INVASION THEORY IS FLAWED AND ABANDONED SINCE LONG. IF ANYONE IS SO MUCH INTERESTED ABOUT IT, THEN PLEASE VISIT THE WIKIPEDIA PAGES OF ALL THE INDIAN CASTES WHO CLAIM ARYAN ORIGIN.
-- Vaishya Dharma Prasikhaa (1890) is a book for the ARYA VYSYAS only. OTHER BOOKS SHOULD NOT BE GIVEN HEED. PEOPLE OF ONE CASTE HAVE ALWAYS TRIED TO DENEGRATE THE OTHER'S CASTE. THERE IS A BIG AMOUNT OF LITERATURE WRITTEN TO DENEGRATE SEVERAL CASTES. IN RESPECT TO ARYA VYSYAS ONLY Vaishya Dharma Prasikhaa (1890) IS THE AUTHENTIC ONE. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.36.11.17 (talk) 05:55, 6 February 2008 (UTC)