Talk:Leland Palmer

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Thanks for the spoiler warning. I would like to have seen it first. :( —Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.26.122.12 (talk) 04:44, 13 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Not actually a person

This is pathetic. Leland Palmer is an actress. This telly character was named for her. Can't this (unreferenced) text be trimmed a little and incorporated back into the Characters of Twin Peaks article; and Leland Palmer's article moved here?--Rfsmit (talk) 13:49, 29 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

BOB was never physical

BOB was never a physical entity during the first two seasons that could "molest Leland". He is a demonic spirit that can posess people (like Leland) if they mentally allow him to possess them. As Leland says in the episode where he dies, he originally encountered BOB in a dream, where BOB pleaded him to possess him, so BOB and "others like him" "could live in our world at times". Part of luring Leland was BOB appearing to him as an actual person (that "man in the house next to that of Leland's parents or grandparents") after that dream, when he actually only sorta "existed" inside Leland's head. Leland was BOB's only host ever since he came into our world with the Trinity test in 1945, with the only possible exception of Josie. Leland's entire mind is blanked out whenever BOB possesses him, and it's why he didn't know what BOB was doing during those times, up until his dying minutes.

This is in marked contrast to the Doppelgänger tulpas that we first see in the final episode of the original two seasons. BOB and other spirits like him were never physical and could only possess humans, but the Doppelgänger tulpas are actual physical beings created by the Black Lodge. The Black Lodge can create tulpas all the time, but they can only escape into our world if the Black Lodge manages to lure a human into itself and steal the person's soul. The human is then captured inside the Black Lodge, while their Doppelgänger tulpa physically roams our world. BOB could kill Leland by damaging his body, whereas in season 3, Coop's Doppelgänger tulpa's body can die and Coop, who's still physically inside the Black Lodge, will remain fully alive. In the case of BOB, there only was one physical body, which was Leland's, whereas with the Doppelgänger tulpas, there's always two bodies, the original person and their tulpa clone. --2003:EF:170A:9237:8576:5C6D:8AA3:3694 (talk) 22:23, 26 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]