Talk:List of taijutsu in Naruto
Jutsu Rank
[edit]Why are the game jutsu ranked like canon jutsu? Shouldn't those ranks be deleted?
Naruto Fubuki no Jutsu
[edit]About this jutsu. By the description of it, it sounds more like Ninjutsu then Taijutsu. Has it been stated that it's Taijutsu or is this speculation?--JadziaLover 19:21, 28 January 2006 (UTC)
- Are explosive tags considered ninja tools, thus making it a Ninjutsu? --Pentasyllabic 21:27, 28 January 2006 (UTC)
- They probably are --JadziaLover 11:45, 16 February 2006 (UTC)
Bunshin Kaiten Kakatou to Shin(naruto clones army formation)
[edit]- Name: Bunshin Kaiten Kakatou to Shin, 柳の舞, literally "naruto clones army formation"
- Type:B rank, Offensive, Short range (0-5m)
- Users: Uzumaki Naruto
- naruto creates four bunshins and jumps up in the air hitting the opponent with their heels. One to the head, two to each shoulders, and one to the head
Is this a real jutsu? --JadziaLover 11:45, 16 February 2006 (UTC)
On Sakura Blizzard:
It's not a ninjutsu because it doesn't require any chakra. It is solely physical ability using tools. The use of tools does not denote 'ninjutsu' in the Naruto universe.
On Bunshin Kaiten Kakatou to Shin:
No. It's not a real jutsu, just a really complex name for an alternate version of the Uzumaki Naruto Rendan, where he creates four Kage Bunshin to do a combined Konoha Shofu, followed by an aerial heel-drop to the head, doing about the same as Shishi Rendan or Omote Renge.
--Smoke Myst 16:50, 26 February 2006 (EST)
- A jutsu that uses only weapons is a Ninjutsu. Examples are Kage Shuriken, (Dai)Kamaitachi, Jōro Senbon, and Shikomishindan
- On Bunshin Kaiten Kakatou to Shin. When does Naruto do this jutsu? and does he actually say the name of the jutsu? --JadziaLover 01:07, 27 February 2006 (UTC)
To JadziaLover:
I realise my misjudgment on the Sakura Blizzard. Please cease from reverting the Taijutsu page without any apparent reason. I and a friend of mine have been working on revising the Ninjutsu, Taijutsu, and Genjutsu of Naruto to keep it current and accurate, fleshing out pitiful descriptions and adding descriptions where revoked. My IP (when not logged in at home) is 68.66.23.75
--Smoke Myst
I know I'm very late on this one, but all of the examples above use Chakra. Rock Lee can use weapons but he can't use Ninjutsu. A normal person if they had exploding tags and no Ninja training but could throw really well could do Sakura Fubuki. Gamabunta's Toad Beheading is a Taijutsu implying that pure weapon attacks are Taijutsu. I think it should eb a Taijutsu.Rayfire 22:55, 7 July 2006 (UTC)
Taijutsu/genkai
[edit]Is the Hyuga clan the only clan where they have taijutsu as a kekkai genkai
- The Hyūga clan's Kekkei Genkai isn't Taijutsu. They just use it to do Taijutsu moves. The Kaguya clan, of which Kimimaro was a member, also used their Kekkei Genkai to do Taijutsu.
- I don't think this is the right place to ask this, though...
- ~卍 JadziaLover 会話~投稿 卐~ 01:13, 2 April 2006 (UTC)
Lion combo users?
[edit]Didn't Naruto use a varion of the lion combo ("Naruto combo") in ep 45, shouldn't he be added to the lion combo users as well as a note made under it? Deuxhero 20:33, 11 May 2006 (UTC)
- You mean the Uzumaki Naruto Rendan? That's a seperate jutsu and is listed under Ninjutsu
- ~卍 JadziaLover 会話~投稿 卐~ 22:31, 11 May 2006 (UTC)
Mighty Guy and Rokuju yonSho
[edit]Someone (70.21.65.185 and 70.21.75.45) changed some of the links from Might Guy to Mighty Guy. Since there is no Mighty Guy article or redirection, I changed it back to Might Guy. Also, those users changed "Rokujuyon Sho" to "Rokuju yonSho" here, but have been fixed on Hyūga Hinata. I have not reverted those changes since I'm not familiar enough with Japanese. -- Pedantic79 (talk) 07:41, 22 June 2006 (UTC)
- I ended up chaning "Rokujuyon Sho" to "Rokuju yonSho" as well. -- Pedantic79 (talk) 23:20, 22 June 2006 (UTC)
It should be Rokujuyon Sho. Roku is six, Ju is ten, and Yon is four, thus Sixty Four. Sho is palms, so unless you normally break up your numbers it should be the original way.Rayfire 22:58, 7 July 2006 (UTC)
I allways thought Mighty Guy was Mighty Guy not Might Guy.
Who is might suit naruto ?
[edit]under users on the jutsus some say might suit naruto who is that?--71.199.154.43 13:33, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
- Video game version of Naruto wearing the same suit as Guy and Lee. – Someguy0830 (Talk | contribs) 14:41, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
Limits of Wikipedia coding
[edit]Am I the only one for whom links with parentheses after # aren't working? I mean, Taijutsu_(Naruto)#Shugohakke_Rokujuyon_Sho_(Protection_of_the_Eight_Trigrams_Sixty-Four_Palms) brings me to the page, but the view stays at the top of the page. I'm using Firefox 1.5.0.5 and Windows XP. Raijinili 15:34, 3 August 2006 (UTC)
- It's not because of parentheses, it's because you followed a broken link. The real link should be Taijutsu_(Naruto)#Protection_of_the_Eight_Trigrams_Sixty-Four_Palms Grrblt 14:07, 28 August 2006 (UTC)
Eight Inner Gates Bombardment
[edit]Uh, shouldn't this technique be moved to the video game section of this article? I've only seen Neji use this in the PS2 games.
TimeReaper
The gates
[edit]Where do those descriptions come from? Are they from the data books or is most of the info speculation? Nemu 22:56, 4 September 2006 (UTC)
- A few of the gates are described in the manga, and the rest are only referred to by name. The gates do seem to have their own page in the first data book (page 165 if you're curious), but not knowing Japanese, I don't know what it says about them. I'd imagine though that that is where the information is from. ~SnapperTo 23:13, 4 September 2006 (UTC)
Mistranslation of Kage Buyo
[edit]To my knowledge, the literal trnslation of Kage Buyo is Shadow Dance. Not leaf shadow dance as they say in the article. The mangas and anime may call it shadow leaf dance, but the literal translation should not. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.192.77.222 (talk • contribs)
- Running "Kage Buyo" through a translator does indeed give "Shadow Dance". However, when you run "影舞葉" through a translator, you get "Shadow dance leaf". So, it would seem to simply be a missing word in the romanization of the technique. ~SnapperTo 18:53, 30 September 2006 (UTC)
Flying Swallow
[edit]Shouldn't Flying Swallow be counted as a Ninjutsu? I am aware that it involves a weapon and that falls under Taijutsu, however it is also a Wind Element Chakra manipulation, as explained to Naruto during the Naruto's Training arc in part II. Elemental Manipulations fall under Nin not Taijutsu. As Chidori proves it doesn't need to be prefaced with Futon. Rayfire 04:54, 3 October 2006 (UTC)
- Asuma's chakra knives extending aren't really part of the jutsu. They count it as taijutsu in the databooks I believe. – Someguy0830 (Talk | contribs) 04:56, 3 October 2006 (UTC)
- So this isn't referring to the Chakra Extension but to him simply attacking with them extended... Okay.Rayfire 20:07, 3 October 2006 (UTC)
- Precisely. – Someguy0830 (Talk | contribs) 22:19, 3 October 2006 (UTC)
Eight Gates
[edit]Another question on the Eight Gates. I do believe in the original Japanese the Eight Gates Manipulation is Hachimon Tonku, based on what was written in this article prior to the change to english headers. This is further supported by the fact that the Japanese name currently in the article is used twice. The first which I am fairly positive is incorrect is under the Eight Gates section the second which is correct is for Neji's Eight Trigrams Bombardment.Rayfire 20:07, 3 October 2006 (UTC)
Warning About Posible Deletion
[edit]As another article like this one was deleted recently, and the people involved said that this one was high on their list of priorities, I don't think it would be a bad idea for someone to back up the page to get it ready for moving to a Wikia, just in case is DOES get deleted by the "crufters", as I've taken to calling them. (Justyn 18:48, 8 October 2006 (UTC))
Morning Peacock
[edit]Does it really require six gates to be opened? I was under the impression that it only required the sixth gate specifically. Gai seems to recover remarkably quickly if he did open six gates. Remember, Lee was 'permanently' crippled after opening five, and experience wouldn't allow Gai to avoid the effects of that.
- Lee was crippled because of Gaara`s Sand, but yes, it´s quite strange that Guy isn´t even tired after opening six gates. Maybe it´s just because of his higher stamina and/or the short duration of the jutsu. -- Felcis 02:39, 10 November 2006 (UTC)
Chouji's "Human Bullet Tank"
[edit]The kanji for "human" doesn't appear anywhere in the jutsu name. The four kanji literally mean "Meat Bullet Tank". The jutsu's section and Chouji's page should be updated to reflect this. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by HisshouBuraiKen (talk • contribs) 16:17, 20 February 2007 (UTC).
Kakashi's Video Game Copies
[edit]I am attempting to discern and record which video game moves Kakashi is able to copy using his Sharingan. However, having never played Gekitou Ninja Taisen 3 and 4, I can not be absolutely sure. While I assume so, does anyone know if Kakashi can copy the "Super" versions of Inner Sakura and Fang-over-Fang? Also, is he able to copy techniques in the Narutimate Hero series? ShadowHare 18:26, 23 February 2007 (UTC)
Yes, Kakashi can copy his opponents jutsu with his sharingan in the narutimate hero series. CHECHNYAN DSLS 14:28, 30 May 2007 (UTC)\
He's right (Jmdefrancesco 14:36, 31 May 2007 (UTC))
Soft Fist
[edit]Isnt the basic/primary use of Soft Fist to destroy internal organs? The way the article is written now makes it appear that tenketsu(Chakra Hole) modification is the primary use of soft fist and I dont believe that is true. I'm pretty sure that tenketsu tapping is reserved for elite hyugans who have advanced their byakugan vision enough to actually see tenketsus. In other words palms strikes damage internal organs, while finger strikes modify tenketsus. Yeah I could just be bold and change it myself but im pretty sure someone else will just change it back unless some kind of conscensus is reached. Bushido Brown 05:39, 9 March 2007 (UTC)
- If I have this right, it damages internal organs through attacking tenketsu. The chakra itself won't do damage to the opponent's organs. Instead, the Hyuga has to attack his/her opponent's chakra circulatory system, which is intertwined with the organs. You Can't See Me! 07:44, 12 March 2007 (UTC)
- I dont think that's right. If you remember Neji's duel with Hinata you will remember that Neji used palm strikes to distract/playcate Hinata, while he used finger strikes to zap her tenketsu. Given that Hinata couldnt even feel it occur I would have to say one she isn't very familar with the tenketsu tapping technique and two tenketsu tapping doesnt effect/damage the internal organs unless the user really wants it too. Palm Strikes seem to only damage internal organs via chakra manipulation and they seem unrelated to tenketsus. Bushido Brown 14:15, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
The Gentle Fist style puts a small, but intense burst of chakra into the point of contact made and releases it, attacking the opponent's chakra circulatory system directly. The chakra circulatory system, or network, is closely intertwined with the internal organs, making them nearly one in the same. Damage to the chakra network will damage the opponent's internal organs physically. There 316 are chakra points along the chakra network, they act as power substations, directing and regulating chakra flow throughout the network. Striking one directly will alter chakra flow, either stopping it, or increasing it. Using ones chakra, one can strike an opponent's chakra points to cut off various parts of their opponents body from their chakra network. Now one does not have to attack a person's chakra points to attack their internal organs, only the chakra network. However, the chakra points are on the charkra network itself, so one may attack the points to attack the network, causing internal damage as well as cutting off chakra flow. Neji uses his fingers for quick and precise attacks against the chakra points, whereas he normally uses his palms for larger bursts of chakra, damaging the organs and probably (though inaccurately) disrupting chakra points as well. Throwing in the Bykugan, one can accurately see and attack the various chakra points of their opponent, as well as see the structure of thier chakra network, further increasing attack options at the user's disposal. One could reason, however, you could blindly attack where a vital organ is, as a sufficient ammount of chakra would greatly disrupt the chakra network and damage the organs regardless of the placement of the attack. Think of it as Shotgun versus Rifle shots. The palm has greater surface area, meaning more damage can be done across a larger area of the body. The fingers can be equally damaging, they are more accurate and can have a great ammount of chakra put into the attack to severly damage a singled out organ, the heart, perhaps. It all depends on how much chakra is put into the strike, hence the name Gentle Fist: The lightest touch can be fatal with enough chakra put into the attack. Example: Neji uses his palms to attack Hinata's chakra network in her chest and abdomen, thus attacking her internal organs. He then accurately attacks the various chakra points in Hinata's arms, causing less physical damage (to the point where Hinata could barely feel them, if at all), but severing her arms from her chakra network, thus disabling her from using the Gerntle Fist style herself, which requires chakra buildup in her hands. Finally, Neji uses one final palm strike directly to Hinata's heart.
- I don't know who you are or where you got your information but I still interpret the following from the Neji vs Hinata battle.
- 1. Palm strikes can damage internal organs along the chakra regulatory system but they dont effect tenketsus.
- 2. Only a fully developed Byakugan can see Trnketsus(chakra points).
- 3. Tenketsu tapping can only be done via finger strikes and it doesnt neccessarily damage organs or cause the victim to feel physical pain.
- Bushido Brown 01:44, 12 April 2007 (UTC)
It all depends on how much chakra is put into the attack. So finger strikes can damage organs if a sufficient ammount of chakra is used. Perhaps fatally. You may remember when Lord Hiashi Hyuga killed that Cloud ninja, he used a finger strike. Chakra points are parts of the chakra network. They are quite small, however, about only the size of a pin head, therefore they are harder to attack accurately. Im not sure about the Byakugan and its development, though Im sure there is one as we see Neji's skill with it much improved in part two. A Byakugan user may be able to see chakra points intitially, maybe not. Regardless, it takes more than a Byakugan to attack chakra points, the opponent could be moving and you have to be quick and precise about your attacks. Neji has trained and has developed skills in hand-eye coordination to attack them accurately and quickly. Palm strikes damage organs by forcing some of the attacker's chakra into the opponent's chakra network. I believe that palm strikes can also hit chakra points, as the only requirement for chakra point strikes is that you put chakra into the point to shut it down. Though if you are using palm strikes you probably wouldn't be going after chakra points anyway, its just an added bonus. I have my opinion, you have yours, and I respect it. Oh, and I got my information from watching and interpreting the show, like you did. 72.234.47.244 03:22, 12 April 2007 (UTC)
Leaf Hurricane
[edit]Soem one needs to make up their minds. Which is the true Leaf Hurricane?
- It appaears to me that their are at least 4 different leaf-wind attacks I dont see a need to change anthing about those mentions Bushido Brown 23:58, 10 March 2007 (UTC)
Lightning Bolt Attack
[edit]What happend to the info of Lightning Bolt Attack?Jacce 20:26, 18 March 2007 (UTC)
Intercepting Technique
[edit]A technique used in episode 195 by Yagura against Lee. He used it to "break" Lee's Konoha Whirlwind. It was given a name, yet it hasn't been placed on the list of Taijutsu techniques. Only reason as to why I haven't uploaded it yet is that I'm not sure if it is an anime only jutsu, or has been in the manga as well. Cruentus Imber 00:49, 30 March 2007 (UTC)
- Its an anime only technique, check the "Anime only jutsu" article and see if its there Bushido Brown 05:10, 17 April 2007 (UTC)
- It wasn't on the list, so I took the liberty of adding it myself. Though I'm sure that it has at least one thing wrong with it. :P Cruentus Imber 21:52, 26 April 2007 (UTC)
Morning Peacock rank
[edit]shouldnt we just assume that morning peacock is S-ranked since it is clearly much more powerful that the reverse lotus which is A-ranked?24.185.163.37 20:34, 6 April 2007 (UTC)
- Why do we need to assume? There's nothing wrong with leaving it at unknown since, you know, it is. ~SnapperTo 20:40, 6 April 2007 (UTC)
ok i can understand that. but i have another question. the picture shown next to the description doesnt seem to potray what happens in the technique at all, according to what i have read in the description. what is happening in the picture and what is its relevance to the technique?24.185.163.37 00:09, 7 April 2007 (UTC)
- The image refers to the line that, "he then punches his opponent over and over, causing a peacock-like fan of flaming chakra to develop." All of the balls of flame in the image represent one of Guy's punches. ~SnapperTo 02:50, 7 April 2007 (UTC)
reverse lotus addition
[edit]shouldnt it be mentioned that in Rock Lee's version of the Reverse Lotus, he first volleys his target back and forth in the air for some time before delivering the final punch/kick?24.185.163.37 22:17, 20 April 2007 (UTC)
- He only did that since he needed to damage Gaara's Armor of Sand. Sephiroth BCR 22:19, 20 April 2007 (UTC)shouldn't kakashi be added to user's since he had watched the whole fight of rocklee and gaara with his sharingan???
No, because Kakashi never actually uses the technique in the manga or anime, so it can not be known if he actually copied the technique in the first place. If he did copy it, then it shouldn't be added until he uses it anyway, so it really doesn't matter now does it. CHECHNYAN DSLS 14:37, 30 May 2007 (UTC)
Game Jutsu
[edit]Well, I just don't understand it. These Jutsus, I'm sure, are whanted. This doesn't make sense at all accually, we got something goin' for like a year, then one edit, then hard, whanted, rewarding work goes down the can. Can't we think of a way to get over this and solve it in a way where we all win in the end. SoundPound500000
- First, Talk:Jutsu (Naruto)#Game techniques. Second, many of these "jutsu" are barely such, and are instead eight preexisting jutsu strung together to make a game more interesting than its predecessor. And, perhaps more importantly, 99% of these jutsu are not linked to anywhere. They are included for the sake of being included, and have no value past seeing how many possible ways character A can kick character B. ~SnapperTo 04:14, 20 May 2007 (UTC)
I think we should bring back the game jutsus because I personally want to know the different techniques that can be used in the games. I'm such a huge fan of the games, but I can't play a lot of them because I either don't have the system required or the game hasn't been released in America yet, so seeing the different techniques before I actually play the game helps a lot. If we can please bring back the game jutsu for all of the sections, nin, tai, and gen. I would greatly appreciate it if someone would do that please. CHECHNYAN DSLS 14:44, 30 May 2007 (UTC)
- Wikipedia is not an indiscriminate collection of information. The jutsu serve no purpose beyond being listcruft, and aren't notable in terms of the series. Furthermore, you're attempting to justify including them based upon your belief that Wikipedia is a game guide. It is not. The only ones that should be included are truly unique elements (i.e. Might Suit Naruto), but they are better placed on the individual character's article. Maintaining those jutsu was also a management nightmare, and invited hordes of vandalism. Sephiroth BCR (Converse) 20:30, 30 May 2007 (UTC)
Sorry, I didn't know about all the time management that goes into these articles. I just got an account after finding out about this website and I guess I still have a lot to learn about it. CHECHNYAN DSLS 01:22, 31 May 2007 (UTC)
Gentle Fist
[edit]Of course it's a kekkei gankai your kidding guys.
- It's a taijutsu style. Any person with sufficient training could use it. To use it effectively, you do require the Byakugan, but someone could still use it without having it. Sephiroth BCR (Converse) 03:24, 26 May 2007 (UTC)
Not true a random ninja can't hit chakra points its a hyuga clan thing noted by kakashi when Neji vs hinata. You can't hit random spots you need the byakugan to hit chakra points geez.
- Please read my post. I noted that anyone could perform it with sufficient training (as in channel chakra into their attacks), but not use it effectively. Effectively as in actually striking chakra points and performing the intended result of the style, which does require the Byakugan. However, to simply perform attacks in the style, the Byakugan is not required. Sephiroth BCR (Converse) 01:27, 29 May 2007 (UTC)
If anyone wants my opinion on how the Gentle Fist style works, see my above posts. In any case, I agree with Sephiroth above me, and am glad that there are others who see things as I do. Now about the Gentle Fist being a Kekkei Genkai, this is absolutely untrue. This is a fighting style, not a trait that is inherited in the blood. You have it backwards, the Gentle fist may be a fighting style that is inherited but that is only because the Byakugan itself is inherited, and the style is taught by, and to Byakugan users. Also, yes you can hit a Chakra point by striking random spots. Chakra points are at physical locations, they don't just disappear when the opponent can't see them. Striking at random can have the attacker strike a chakra point. It is all random chance. Though, as was also said, to use the Gentle fist style effectively, you would need a Byakugan. Espescially if you want to strike chakra points. 72.234.46.143 07:36, 29 May 2007 (UTC)
geez think what u want whatever.
Semi-protect?
[edit]The only edits we get from IPs on this page are rank changes. Can we just get this page semi'd so we can take care of more important matters? // DecaimientoPoético 20:26, 28 May 2007 (UTC)
- That seems to be fine. Edit warring over the "S-rank ass poke" is indeed tiresome. :p Sephiroth BCR (Converse) 21:39, 28 May 2007 (UTC)
exploding tags
[edit]Aren't they called paper bombs in english?
- I always thought they were called letter bombs, but I could be wrong. // DecaimientoPoético 01:27, 31 May 2007 (UTC)
It might also translate as card bombs or something that is usually made of paper but not always.
Eight Trigrams Sixty-Four Palms
[edit]Isn´t the entry a little off, because it´s name is sixty-four palms. It says in the entry that it does first two hits, then four, then eight, then sixteen, then thirty-two, then sixty-four for a total of 126 hits. Thats off, in my opinion its first two, then four, then eight, then sixteen and finally thirty-two for a total of 64 hits. 88.112.97.148 03:09, 25 August 2007 (UTC)
- Your opinion doesn't hold a lot of weight when the manga shows otherwise. That it doesn't add up correctly is irrelevant. ~SnapperTo 03:34, 25 August 2007 (UTC)