Talk:List of tallest buildings and structures in Sheffield
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Demolished buildings
[edit]The following table of demolished buildings used to be in the article. While a list of demolished buildings provides excellent context for the remaining buildings, this list is vague and unencyclopaedic. It's impossible to have any confidence that this really is the list of tallest demolished buildings in Sheffield, rather than just a list of tall-ish buildings that some editor vaguely remembers having been knocked down. Wikipedia is not the place for recording that you think that the Tinsley Cooling Towers might have been built in 1927 but you're not sure. It's not the place for recording that Beachview might have been demolished in the 2000s but, hey, it might not have been.
Name Height Stories Completed Demolished Tinsley Cooling Towers 250 feet (76 m) 0 1920s-30s? (Think it's 1927, don't know for sure.) 2008 Hyde Park Block B 56 metres (184 ft) 19 1966 1993? Beechview, Guildford, Mandrake and Talbot Flats 47 metres (154 ft) 16 1965 - 67 2000s? Claywood Flats (three blocks) 46 metres (151 ft) 17 1970 2005? Norfolk Park Flats (multiple blocks) 46 metres (151 ft) 17 1965 - 68 2000s Kelvin Flats 43 metres (141 ft) 13 1969 1990s
Dricherby (talk) 20:06, 1 August 2009 (UTC)
Is any of this list accurate?
[edit]I noticed what I thought was just a minor error on this webpage and thought I would sign up on Wikipedia and correct the mistake. Things don't appear to be as easy as I thought they would be.
Velocity Tower is listed as the second tallest building in Sheffield with 30 floors and a height of 92 metres. This building was not completed to the approved specification of 30 floors or the 36 stories the builders 'thought' they had planning permission for, and built appropriate foundations for. The number of stories can be seen in the picture shown on the http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Velocity_Tower_April_2010_(2).JPG webpage. It looks like it has only 22 floors. Major construction work on this building stopped on 23 November 2008, when the tower crane was removed. See the http://www.geograph.org.uk/photo/1246775 webpage. The Velocity Estates webpage http://www.velocityestates.co.uk/velocity-tower-c17.html has the Tower with '23 floors ready now', and http://www.skyscrapernews.com/buildings.php?id=5635 has it listed with 18 floors, a further two underground, and an 'estimated' height of 53 metres. Does anyone know the correct height for this building?
Does the Hancock and Lant building (aka iquarter and Castle House Redevelopment) qualify for inclusion in this list? It was finished in 2009. Wikipedia's List_of_tallest_buildings_in_Sheffield has it under construction, with a proposed height of 48 metres, but http://www.skyscrapernews.com/buildings.php?id=4684 has it with a 'Pinnacle Height (AGL)' of 51 metres. The variation in height between 48 and 51 metres would make a difference as to where the building fits within the ranking of the tallest buildings in Sheffield. Wikipedia has the Pennine Centre at 50 metres, the Owen Building at 49 metres, and Sheffield Cathedral at 49 metres. Does the Hancock and Lant building belong above or the below this group?
Does a building's chimney count as part of a structure, and if so then what about the height of the incinerator on Bernard Road?
The other potential problem with this webpage is it only covers buildings in 'central Sheffield'. Is that why the incinerator on Bernard Road is ommitted from the list? Just where is central Sheffield? Does the soon to be increased in height Hallam Tower (aka Post House Hotel) fall within this ambiguous area and just how high is the Hallam Tower now? The Sheffield Council planning documents for the proposals for changes to this development can be found at the http://planningdocs.sheffield.gov.uk/WAM/showCaseFile.do?appType=DC&appNumber=06/00836/FUL webpage.
I am a reluctant to start editing this webpage due to inexperience in editing any wiki, the problems posed in updating the tallest_building_in_Sheffield page with reliable information, and the undefined geographical area 'central Sheffield'. Do any experienced wikipedians have any ideas? It appears to me that the only building correctly ranked in the present list is St Paul's Tower.
--Waugh Bacon (talk) 19:05, 19 August 2010 (UTC)
- Welcome to Wikipedia. The most important thing is that the list is sourced from reliable sources. The list as it is has only one source—skyscrapernews. If that source is wrong we need other reliable sources in order to correct it.—Jeremy (talk) 20:31, 19 August 2010 (UTC)
- Also, I may be wrong, but I think that generally lists of tallest buildings don't count chimneys or antennae as parts of the building.—Jeremy (talk) 20:35, 19 August 2010 (UTC)
- Emporis is probably a more reliable source than skyscrapernews. They have Velocity Tower at 65.83 metres (216.0 ft) and 22 floors.[1]—Jeremy (talk) 20:43, 19 August 2010 (UTC)
- I have corrected and updated the list. I also expanded the scope to the whole of the city.—Jeremy (talk) 02:47, 20 August 2010 (UTC)
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