Talk:Manuherikia River

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Why does this article use the old, arguably incorrect spelling that's being moved away from? The local council uses Manuherekia, not Manuherikia

--199.212.64.135 (talk) 01:02, 29 August 2021 (UTC)

According to LINZ the feature name is Manuherikia River, although the "feature does not have an official name". Names don't always need to align to official sources. It can change to "the two-e spelling" if it can be shown to be the more common version. +mt 08:34, 29 August 2021 (UTC)

???????? Well someone can't spell eh?

It isn't either one or the other, it is ONLY (and has since long ago) ever been written (by the ENGLISH surveyors who named many places with ENGLISH names, and NOT the local Maori's dialet versions)

as the "Manuherikia". WITH AN "EYE" (i) ...

How do I know, well maybe because I was born here in 1953 and my family has lived in this valley since people came into the valley for Gold and to farm the land. My Dad was also born here away back in 1914 and told me the name always tripped his Mum up as she could never pronounce it correctly, preferring to simplify it as Maneu'reka. She was also born just over in the next valley, The Ida Valley, and as she was 99+ when she died in 1994, she would have been born near here, in 1895

It's always been the same name. People who can't say it, or spell it correctly, doesn't change the way it should be written.

Also, it is obviously being DELIBERATELY CHANGED away from it's English Spelling, by our very adamant Māori peoples, (and to think NZ was judging the South Africans as if they were too much better, thatn those "apartied" of South Africa.

New Zealand many people (or rather the local iwi = Māori) are deliberately bastardizing many of our landscaped place names - that the ENGLISH surveyors used, to NOW convert them into a Māori version, (as if it should ONLY be that instead of the TWO WAYS, that they should be spelt - as New Zealand is a bi-lingual country - officially, and thus is actually still ENGLISH, as the preferred NZ language, irrespective to the added Māori Language as a 2nd official language, which many NZ KIWI PEOPLE "of English Origin", never knew that our "words written in ink for over a hundred years" in the (back then) official ONE language NZ Used, would "recently" be deliberately changed into JUST the alternative official Māori language).

with my reference to/ [quote] https://www.odt.co.nz/regions/central-otago/council-leaving-official-name-change-move-iwi [unquote]

Which in my opinion is WRONG, as NZ has two official languages now, instead of "just" the NEW ONE that many are trying to force on the rest of us, who still use ENGLISH as our only official language in written form.

Oh and plus:

TWO other parts of the "Article" page itself, is written as this cr4p...

1/- [quote] It rises in the far north of the Maniototo, [unquote]

As the river DOES NOT come from any part of the Maniototo, but rises from the upper reaches of the Ida Valley (North of Oturehua). The Ida Valley is NOT part of the Maniototo at all see.

!!!!!!!!!

& 2/- [quote] the West Branch draining the eastern side of the St Bathans Range, and the East Branch draining the western flanks of the Hawkdun Range. [unquote]

???????????

Why is it that some people have absolutely NO IDEA as to which side is which and as to "East or West" of a main river valley being the Manuherikia Valley. Such that if something IS "on the West side", it's known as coming from - the WEST SIDE; & for all that COMES from the EAST SIDE, comes from the EAST.

Hence could someone (an administrator) rewrite that drivel, with:

[EDIT].

the West Branch arises (in the WEST) by draining the Western flanks of the Hawkdun Range, via the Falls Creek (& Falls Dam), along with the Dunstan Creek draining the gully between Mount St. Bathans and the Dunstan Range, with Hills Creek draining into the Manuherikia from directly north near Hills Runs Road, while the East Branch drains the Eastern flanks of the Hawkdun Range, slightly to the West of Mount Buster, at the extreme Southern Tip of the Hawkdun Range via the Idaburn Creek (in the headwaters of the Idaburn Valley) which flows towards the center of the Ida Valley, (past the Idaburn Dam, where for many years motorcyclists converge in mid-winter to attend a festival called The Brass Monkey Rally) where it then flows further South & joins with the Moa Creek, & Poolburn Creek, to empty through a deep gorge, called the Poolburn Gorge, to flow into the Manuherikia River just upstream from Lauder & thus downstream from Becks.[END OF EDIT]

AND NOT IN THE STUPID WAY IT IS CURRENTLY "INCORRECTLY" WRITTEN...!!!

As if it came UPHILL and across the high ridge that divides the Maniototo from the Idaburn - a LONG WAY WEST of the distant Maniototo, which is over two valleys away from the Manuherikia Valley.

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Or can't any of you use a Google Map yet?

WEDDERBURN (the township) sits on the HIGH ridge (between Mount Buster on the Hawkdun Range), which is at the Southern end of Mount Buster, and is directly East of the HIGH ridge that runs South into the Serpentine, near Lake Onslow (East of Roxburgh, where I live now, after living most of my life at Galloway, in the Manuherikia valley.).

Some of you (think) you know me, but you don't know anything about the valley I have spent over 50 years in, as well as another 20+ years - where I now live 20 miles downriver at Roxburgh, (technically in the same valley), from which the Manuherikia ran, and which joined the Clutha at Alexandra, to flow down through the Roxburgh Gorge & thus past Roxburgh.

End of rant.

QUIX4U Aka Keith Clare. www.quiBx.co.nz 219.89.161.118 (talk) 14:01, 16 February 2024 (UTC) 219.89.161.118 (talk) 14:03, 16 February 2024 (UTC)

219.89.161.118 (talk) 14:03, 16 February 2024 (UTC)