Talk:Morisco rebellions in Granada
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Moriscos or Mudejars.
After reference to the Wiki page on Moriscos, there seems to be a conflict of terms. Here Morisco is deemed to mean those Muslims living in Spain before the expulsion. However, the Morisco page states that Moriscos are Chritstians who once were Iberian Muslims. A definition of terms would be appreciated.
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Proposal: better call it Moorish independence War
This is not an "ordinary" revolt that is limited to the level of populace, peasants or nobility. And not a revolt against certain measures, or certain advisors, but a fully fledged secession and independence war. They proclaimed their own king, Aben Hommeya, who was a descendant of Moorish kings in a straight line. In dynastical terms we would even have a legitimate ruler here! Intellectuals of all times may have chosen to call it a revolt, and with the derisive term Morisco connected to it, but just look at the facts: this is a secession, coupled with an independence war. The term Morisco is worse than calling someone "negro" or "eskimo" because it became in use as a deliberately meant derisive term by one of the parties involved, and therefore lacking neutrality, including as a wikipedia article by people who should have known better. I understand though that the term Morisco is very common in use, and not meant derisively by those modern people who are ignorant of the real facts.
Still, I propose, from now on, to call it the Moorish Independence War. Both for politically correct reasons, and for the accuracy of the use of language in historiography. We have the same right to give it a name as anyone before us. It's up to us to set this straight for future generations. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 220.127.116.11 (talk) 15:05, 30 August 2009 (UTC)
Mistake 'end of Islamic presence'
"The second rebellion led to the expulsion of almost all Moors (or "Moriscos") from the city and province and marked the end of Islamic presence in Spain."
This is wrong. The Moriscos from the Kingdom of Granada were scattered over the rest of Spain, but the expulsion of all Moriscos from Spain (ending Islamic presence in Spain) was only decreed in 1609, several decades after the end of the second rebellion. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 18.104.22.168 (talk) 11:53, 28 May 2014 (UTC)