Talk:New Jersey Route 167/GA1

GA Review

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GA review (see here for criteria)

1. It is reasonably well written.

   a (prose): b (MoS):

   The first thing I notice is that the lead is too long, only several words longer than the body of the article, and it includes information not sourced in the article. The prose needs significant work, as well. Examples are below.

2. It is factually accurate and verifiable.

   a (references): b (citations to reliable sources): c (OR):

   There are only three sources, one of which is a personal website. There's also original research: "The route is one of the few discontinuous state highways in New Jersey (along with Route 7 and arguably Route 440)".

3. It is broad in its coverage.

   a (major aspects): b (focused):

   More context is needed in the route description. What kind of topgraphy surrounds the route?

4. It follows the neutral point of view policy.

   Fair representation without bias:

5. It is stable.

   No edit wars etc.:

6. It is illustrated by images, where possible and appropriate.

   a (images are tagged and non-free images have fair use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):

   A map, as well as an image, would be useful.

7. Overall:

   Pass/Fail:

Prose issues:

• The route's termini are U.S. Route 9 - Short, stubby sentence.
• There are no intersections with any county or state highways between the termini, and the route is missing 1.99 miles (3.20 km) of a once continuous roadway. - Is the highway really missing the section, meaning it physically lost it one day?
• The route was first assigned a year after the 1953 renumbering, when U.S. Route 9 was bypassed. - Bypassed around what?
• It is not a supplement of federal aid. - What does this mean?
• Route 167's southern terminus is located at an intersection with U.S. Route 9 (New York Road) in the city of Port Republic. - Remove "located".
• The route then intersected with the original alignment of New York Road, now known today as Old New York Road. Route 167 crossed over a stream, intersecting with a privately-maintained roadway soon after.
• The route approaches the Garden State Parkway, but ends at a gate just nearby. - "Just nearby" is weird.
• After a 1.99-mile (3.20 km) gap in the roadway, which mainly consists of down bridges - Is a "down bridge" the same thing as a collapsed bridge?
• The route's official speed limit, which is not signed, is 25 mph (30 km/h) at its southern segment and 50 mph (70 km/h) in its northern segment. - More awkward wording.
• Today, Route 167 is unsigned and has fallen into a state of disrepair. - Is the road in disrepair just on January 6? Or was it in disrepair yesterday?

The above are just examples. Unfortunately, the article needs too much work, so I'm afraid I have to fail it. Good luck with the article! –Juliancolton ^{Tropical Cyclone} 00:55, 7 January 2009 (UTC)

I second the review that the article should not be a GA. I have a few more comments.

• "The route was first assigned a year after the 1953 renumbering" - I have no idea what "the 1953 renumbering" means, but since there's no wikilink, why not just say 1954?
• "which mainly consists of down bridges" - that writing is weird.

--♬♩ Hurricanehink (talk) 00:58, 7 January 2009 (UTC)